The Truth About Sailing On The Algarve

[Heckler]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Just tried to pay my €2 light dues in Nazaré and they have said that they think it now 70 but they too seemed surprised and want to check so can I come back tomorrow. Will update then.

Friends in Bruces report that they are now charging €70 in Faro. Mine is paid till June so will update when I do mine as well.

 

[Graham376]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Just tried to pay my €2 light dues in Nazaré and they have said that they think it now 70 but they too seemed surprised and want to check so can I come back tomorrow. Will update then.

Mine's due in June. Are you trying to pay for 12 months or, the 2 euro for 6 months visitor rate? Let us know when you find out.

 

[stranded]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Mine's due in June. Are you trying to pay for 12 months or, the 2 euro for 6 months visitor rate? Let us know when you find out.

Just the visitor rate - they understood that I think, with considerable help from google translate, and were quite apologetic, but I think they are just putting off giving me the bad news. Tbh. 70 sounds slightly less silly than 2 - though somewhere in the middle would be best. More tomorrow. Probably.

 

[25931]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

From 1 Jan as published in Diario da Republica


Embarcações estrangeiras:
De comércio e pesca até 1000 tAB . . . . . . €35,00
De comércio e pesca de 1000 tAB até
10.000 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €50,00
De comércio e pesca com mais de
10.000 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €65,00
Embarcações afetas à atividade MT . . . . . €65,00
De recreio . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €70,00

Embarcações afetas à atividade MT com
mais de 500 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €70,00
De recreio para navegação oceânica . . . . . €70,00
De recreio para navegação do largo . . . . . €35,00
De recreio para navegação costeira . . . . . . €15,00
De recreio para navegação costeira restrita €10,00
De recreio para navegação em águas abrigadas
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €8,00

 

[Graham376]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Glad to see there is only €2.50 increase for coastal, paid €11.50 the last few years. Originally, there was a language misunderstanding when we decided to pay annual rather than 6 monthly. When asked category, I just replied we sail in coastal area. She understood this to mean boat was "coastal" classification and I didn't feel inclined to correct her

 

[emandvee44]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Last year in June I paid the "farolagem y balizagem" in Olhao and was charged €11.50 without any questions as to category.

It now appears that there is a new 'price list' (as published in the Diario) and some of us will now be classed as a 'foreign vessel', in which case it is €70

I am in Portimao city a stone's throw from the Capitania - I will go in and check.

Cheers,

Michael.

 

[Graham376]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Last year in June I paid the "farolagem y balizagem" in Olhao and was charged €11.50 without any questions as to category.

It now appears that there is a new 'price list' (as published in the Diario) and some of us will now be classed as a 'foreign vessel', in which case it is €70

I am in Portimao city a stone's throw from the Capitania - I will go in and check.

Cheers,

Michael.

Suggest you do same as us and don't ask, just hand over the expired receipt from previous year and say nothing.

 

[25931]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Glad to see there is only €2.50 increase for coastal, paid €11.50 the last few years. Originally, there was a language misunderstanding when we decided to pay annual rather than 6 monthly. When asked category, I just replied we sail in coastal area. She understood this to mean boat was "coastal" classification and I didn't feel inclined to correct her

That's ok provided that you are Portuguese registered otherwise it appeara to be €70 for all.

 

[Graham376]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

That's ok provided that you are Portuguese registered otherwise it appeara to be €70 for all.

Historically, UK boats have always been classified as "ocean" because, unlike many countries, we have no restrictions on boat use. Will see what happens at renewal in June.

 

[25931]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

There hasn't been an increase since 2002 despite the fact that there is supposed to be an annual review.
The socialist chancellor has got the bit between his teeth so €70 this year. There will be elections this year but we may face annual increases.

 

[nortada]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Whatever, as this kicked of in Lagos, I would advise a €2 return train ticket to Portiamao or even a €5 to Olhao could prove a good investment. :encouragement:

 

[25931]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Whatever, as this kicked of in Lagos, I would advise a €2 return train ticket to Portiamao or even a €5 to Olhao could prove a good investment. :encouragement:

Optimist )

 

[nortada]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Optimist )

Realist - as Graham knows, in the past some folk in Lagos were experts at asking the wrong question, in the wrong place at the wrong time and waking sleeping dogs.

Fortunately, most of these folks have departed but their legacies can live on.

emandvee44, I will be very interested to read the outcome of your visit to Portimao's Capitania.

From past experience, Portiamao take a more pragmatic approach.

 

[GHA]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Whatever, as this kicked of in Lagos, I would advise a €2 return train ticket to Portiamao or even a €5 to Olhao could prove a good investment. :encouragement:

No choice given in Faro yesterday when someone renewed, E70.

Where do you get a train ticket to Olhao for a fiver?

 

[crashtack]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

If you are over 60, then all you need is ID at the Railway Station and the discount is automatic. Sadly I've to wait another 8 years, but I tend to sail there anyway, it's only a couple of hours away from Vilamoura.

 

[Graham376]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Where do you get a train ticket to Olhao for a fiver?

You could try the station but, being a youngster, may cost you a bit more We pensioners can get to Lisbon for €15 each first class.

 

[nortada]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

From 1 Jan as published in Diario da Republica


Embarcações estrangeiras:
De comércio e pesca até 1000 tAB . . . . . . €35,00
De comércio e pesca de 1000 tAB até
10.000 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €50,00
De comércio e pesca com mais de
10.000 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €65,00
Embarcações afetas à atividade MT . . . . . €65,00
De recreio . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €70,00

Embarcações afetas à atividade MT com
mais de 500 tAB . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €70,00
De recreio para navegação oceânica . . . . . €70,00
De recreio para navegação do largo . . . . . €35,00
De recreio para navegação costeira . . . . . . €15,00
De recreio para navegação costeira restrita €10,00
De recreio para navegação em águas abrigadas
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . €8,00

The irony is with modern technology, reliance on lighthouses is becoming less and less and even more curious, coastal vessels, who will make most use of the lights pay less than the ocean goers, who use of lights is far less.

 

[nortada]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Optimist )

No choice given in Faro yesterday when someone renewed, E70.

Where do you get a train ticket to Olhao for a fiver?

Well that is Faro off the list for paying light dues. The hot money must be on Portimao or Olhao.

Lagos to Faro train fare €3.20.

 

[GHA]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

Lagos to Faro train fare €3.20.

Ah, the expense of (relative) youth... E7.30 for me one way

 

[25931]

Re: 2019 Light Dues.

The irony is with modern technology, reliance on lighthouses is becoming less and less and even more curious, coastal vessels, who will make most use of the lights pay less than the ocean goers, who use of lights is far less.

The fee is not only for lights but also for buoyage. I suspect that for many people the buoys are more important than the lights but the entrance to a channel can be a bit tricky too although I agree that lighthouses are less important than they used to be.