Tea-bags: the need for legislation.

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I would like to draw forumites attention to the all-to-common and reckless disregard exhibited by some yachtsmen for the importance of carrying sufficient tea-bags aboard their boats to ensure proper safety at sea. Too often one hears of yachts that have put to sea, and after a hard afternoon's beat to windward suddenly discover that they are carying insufficient tea-bags, or at least that their tea-bags are out of date.
Now obviously there is nothing wrong with serving up out-of-date or stale-tasting tea to your crew, or even of depriving them of it altogether, but how can even an experienced skipper be expected to keep a firm grasp of events if he or she is in the advanced stages of caffeine withdrawal.
It seems to me that the coffee-drinking beaurocrats of Brussels have missed a trick here. Carrying sufficient in-date tea-bags should surely form part of the most basic regulations, and making good tea whilst underway ought to be fundamental to the syllabus of "competent crew". Let's face it, someone not able to produce the necessary brew at least once an hour in wind strengths up to force six can hardly be fairly described as competent.
So come on Brussels beaurocrats, what we need is another lovely "directive". Lets have detailed and stringent legislation on this - at least a requirement to carry in-date tea bags in a water-tight container, backed up with an emergency pack of Quick Brew. All this should of course be supported by a rigorous program of inspection, certification, fines etc. Only then will we rid yachting of this blight of irresponsible catering in inshore waters.

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Re:Hobnobs

I am afraid that I will have to disagree with my learned friend /forums/images/icons/smile.gif , it is a well known fact that the only biscuit that can keep the skipper on the ball is a ginger crunchy, These melt in the mouth and can take you away on a flight of fancy such that you can listen to a forecast of gale force winds with equanimity secure in the knowledge that the only likely damage will be to your dodgers (hence the reason that jammy dodgers are of no use)/forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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Why?

Brussels bureaucrats are continental, therefore unable to make tea, so how can they legislate about it?



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Can we have a vote on square, round or pyramid - I mean bags, not biscuits. Our boat favourite 'dunkers' are Foxs Crumble Crunch - esp toffee.

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Speaking from a femine angle, the ONLY biscuit acceptable is the chocolate digestive. And another point,to me coffee tastes better from a flask that tea, has more caffeine, and my dog doesn'tlke coffee. He drinksmy tea if I leave it anywhere he can reach it

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Brewing up trouble

I can't help agreeing with you. But, have you considered some of the knock on effects:

1. Setting a deadline for ensuring that all vessels carry sufficient in-date tea bags - for their entire trip.

2. Setting up council depots to receive out of date tea bags and then getting the government to allow an amnesty for skippers returning out of date tea bags after the deadline has passed.

3. Introducing legislation to ensure that skippers include a statement in their passage plan on tea bag stocks prior to leaving port.

4. Issueing a "kettle kettle" call to alert other vessels if tea bag stocks run low.

5. And lastly, getting the RYA to run another course in vessel victualling with particular emphasis on tea bags and their additional uses of laying down a trail when in a MoB situation.

Hope this is helpful.

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Rubbish!

Much too crumbly and inclined to fall into tea when dunked (which is the only acceptable way of eating biscuits)

No, the true, modern, ship's biscuit is the penguin. A fine blend of biscuit and chocolate (mentioned elsewhere), ideal for said dunking (without breaking), tasty and filling.

According to Patrick O'Brian, in Nelson's Navy, they often used to fill barrels with Penguins....but for some reason, covered them in salt...which I wouldn't have thought could penetrate the wrapper!

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Re:Hobnobs

We need research into the dunkability of modern biscuits. I suspect that not much matches the traditional Rich Tea. This could form the basis of an article published with a re-print of JDS's seminal work on the flickability of tea bags.

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Re:Hobnobs

Ian,

Try these......

http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s97177.htm

Joe.

Ps. Ginger nuts are the only biccies to go to sea with.

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Surely no forumite would be guilty of following that American/continental fad for wrapping up good tea in little paper bags? Tea should be made in a pot; one teaspoonful of leaves per person and one for the pot; freshly boiled water; five minutes to brew; then milk in first (unless you prefer lemon). English Breakfast for that first cup of the morning, perhaps with Assam or Darjeeling later in the day. But teabags? Never!!!

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P.S. Mind you, for proper nautical tea the old leaves are left in the pot until the tea is strong enough for the spoon to stand up without support. How else could a stoker stay alive in a boiler room?

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I agree absolutely. It took me months if not a year or more to get SYMBO (she's from Oklahoma) to make tea using loose tea. Then when I took her to my brothers house in Fareham what were they doing, making tea from tea bags. I have never suffered such loss of credibility.

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Don't forget to heat the pot first. Either by holding it over the steam from the kettle's spout or with some boiling water. Tea is too weak otherwise.

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Bob - you could always follow the Irish tradition and leave it steeping on the back of the oven until it's strong enough to stand a spoon in.

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Bob - you could always follow the Irish tradition and leave it steeping on the back of the oven until it's strong enough to stand a spoon in.

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<<secure in the knowledge that the only likely damage will be to your dodgers (hence the reason that jammy dodgers are of no use) >>

Don't you mean Jimi dodgers?? Seems he managed to damage one in a bit of rough weather the other week.


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Boiler room tea.

<<How else could a stoker stay alive in a boiler room? >>


Brings back happy memories. Tea on the 4-8 watch down the engine room made by a fine Indian Donkey-Wallah who couldn't write his name, but there was damn-all you could teach him about boilers and feed pumps!!

Strong tea with condensed milk!! Just the stuff to keep you going, especially after a good run ashore the previous night !!

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Case in point

On August Bank Holiday we, that is to say She Who Must be Obeyed, Alex (8) Charles (1) and myself set off to spend the weekend in Walton Backwaters. As others who practise Family Boating will know only too well, on these occasions the only reason why the Kitchen Sink is not brought along is that the boat already has one.

The car's springs barely survived the short trip to the water, the launch's Plimsoll Line, had it had one, would have been deeply immersed. Bales of spare nappies, crates of teddy bears, flagons of designer water and mountains of food and clothing were hoisted aboard.

And off we went. "As soon as that clipper was clear of the bar", as the song has it, we put the kettle on....and found that we had but three teabags remaining. Coffee, instant and legit., Drinking Chocolate, Horlicks, Ribena, orange juice, and buckets of long life milk we had in plenty, but no tea... And we were bound unto a shop-less, pub-less place. Disaster stared us in the face.

At that moment the mobile phone rang; it was the good ship "Francis Fletcher" with whom we had planned a raft up - "We're off to pick up our grandmothers from Levington - is there anything you need?"

"TEA..." we croaked, our parched throats barely forming the syllables.

We held our course to Flint Island, anchored (badly, as I recall) and despatched the Ship's Boy up the ratlines (one of the benefits of a gaff cutter; we actually have some!) to scan the horizon for sight of the tan sails of the relief ship. This being very similar to an event recorded by Arthur Ransome in those very waters, he obeyed with gusto.

Time passed. There was more than one false alarm. Then "I see her!"

The countdown to ignition sequence of the Taylors stove was initiated...but would we have to wait until a dinghy could get across...

"Don't come alongside," we cried as she swept up, "Our anchor is in the wrong place!" but, with great presence of mind, not to mention boatmanship, the all-important packet of tea was handed over as she swept past.

The holiday could begin.

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