Gludy
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Does anyone own or have first hand experience of these boats?
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Tarquin Trader
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iledesprit a new member used to have one give him a PM
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Whilst I was building a boat with my father in Cobb's quay, poole, they used to launch the traders after they were shipped over for final fitting out. They always kept them in the slings overnight as the majority of them had the tendency to head striaght down. This was some years ago (mid 80's) and so I assume they have improved, at least i would hope so!
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I have second hand experience of a Trader 41 because a mate had one and I was on it quite a lot.
First thing to say was it never did the speed it was supposed to do which was 20knots - he could never screw more than 17knots out of the thing and at that speed it was consuming nearly 2 gallons per mile. Its a semi displacement hull and the more you push it, the harder it gets. Second thing was that it rolled in a beam sea quite uncomfortably at times. It was also an extremely wet boat. I used to have a good laugh when my mate used to don wetgear to drive from the flybridge when I was still in shorts and tee shirt. It may be sold as a 'trawler yacht' but the hull is not remotely similar to any kind of offshore trawler hull. Its a hard chine semi displacement hull with a bit of a keel and no more seaworthy than any other cruiser
Some of the stainless steel on my mate's boat started to show signs of corrosion after one season and Tarquin refused any responsibility accusing him of 'lack of maintenance'. Quite how you maintain stainless, I dont know
The interior was very trad, nice if you like themed pubs. The aft cabin was superbly spacious though and it even had a hip bath in the heads
IMHO, Traders are party boats. In fact they're great party boats. I remember having more than 30 peeps on the T41 aft deck/flybridge for a birthday bash
Fair play to that Chapman bloke, though. He keeps flogging them so I guess somebody likes them
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First thing to say was it never did the speed it was supposed to do which was 20knots - he could never screw more than 17knots out of the thing and at that speed it was consuming nearly 2 gallons per mile. Its a semi displacement hull and the more you push it, the harder it gets. Second thing was that it rolled in a beam sea quite uncomfortably at times. It was also an extremely wet boat. I used to have a good laugh when my mate used to don wetgear to drive from the flybridge when I was still in shorts and tee shirt. It may be sold as a 'trawler yacht' but the hull is not remotely similar to any kind of offshore trawler hull. Its a hard chine semi displacement hull with a bit of a keel and no more seaworthy than any other cruiser
Some of the stainless steel on my mate's boat started to show signs of corrosion after one season and Tarquin refused any responsibility accusing him of 'lack of maintenance'. Quite how you maintain stainless, I dont know
The interior was very trad, nice if you like themed pubs. The aft cabin was superbly spacious though and it even had a hip bath in the heads
IMHO, Traders are party boats. In fact they're great party boats. I remember having more than 30 peeps on the T41 aft deck/flybridge for a birthday bash
Fair play to that Chapman bloke, though. He keeps flogging them so I guess somebody likes them
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Byron used to comment on how these boats are very rolly. This isn't first hand, even from him as far as i know, but it does mean you should praps choose some really rotten bristol chennelish weather for a sea trial, and not just into the solent from chichester harbour where i bet most of them get tested and bought, ahem.
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Gludy
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I have had a trail into Chichester harbour but I am seeking one out at sea on a roughish day. Your message has just reinforced how important this is.
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Gludy
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What do you mean 'head straight down' ... do you mean sink?
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DERF
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Gludy,
I've been away so may have missed it... but weren't you set on a Marlowe?
Have you gone cold on the idea after a sea trial?
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I've been away so may have missed it... but weren't you set on a Marlowe?
Have you gone cold on the idea after a sea trial?
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Gludy
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I came back from Florida knowing one thing for certain ... a marlow is the best power cruising boat made , no ifs, no buts .... its the best. Now 2 years wait.
However, Trader have offered me a nice part X and this makes it easy to change boats .... I should be able to afford a nice boat but I cannot afford to own two, so I am considering the Trader offer.
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However, Trader have offered me a nice part X and this makes it easy to change boats .... I should be able to afford a nice boat but I cannot afford to own two, so I am considering the Trader offer.
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jfm
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Marlow trial
Paul, can we have more detail on the Marlow please!
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Paul, can we have more detail on the Marlow please!
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I thought you were worried by fuel consumption if red diesel goes? Traders drink fuel like they own an oil well unless you drive them at 8knots of course
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jfm
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Paul, could you get nearly the same mpg in your Squaddie as you could get from say a flem55 or a trader, if you just turned off one motor and did 8 or 9 knots?
If yes, why change? Is it that the squaddie hull just wont work well comfortwise at 9 knots?
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If yes, why change? Is it that the squaddie hull just wont work well comfortwise at 9 knots?
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Gludy
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Re: Marlow trial
I could write a small book on the Marlow.
It is packed with common sense innovative features.
A 70 footer costs about £1.25m plus VAT and is a very nice boat.
It oozes quality and thought.
Just one example:-
Anchor chain comes down a tube, gets high pressure jet cleaned on the way and is stored in the bottom of the boat to add to stability and reduce roll, not add to instablity and increase roll.
There are no holes as such in the hull ..... all those drains are piped to one outlet at the back.
Wnat to do an oil change - then the oil pumps out a connection on the stern on the outside of the boat.
The finish of the workbench in the engine room is better quality than any UK made boat's saloon ... by a big margin.
Pop shaft - zero is exposed and this dcues drag a lot.
I could go on and on. David Marlow talked and showed us around non-stop for 4.5 hours.
The new smaller Marlow's are just the same quality and are at bargain prices... also they will offer good support, even in the UK.
One is just going to Italy and another to Ireland so the are just beginning to trickle in around us ......
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I could write a small book on the Marlow.
It is packed with common sense innovative features.
A 70 footer costs about £1.25m plus VAT and is a very nice boat.
It oozes quality and thought.
Just one example:-
Anchor chain comes down a tube, gets high pressure jet cleaned on the way and is stored in the bottom of the boat to add to stability and reduce roll, not add to instablity and increase roll.
There are no holes as such in the hull ..... all those drains are piped to one outlet at the back.
Wnat to do an oil change - then the oil pumps out a connection on the stern on the outside of the boat.
The finish of the workbench in the engine room is better quality than any UK made boat's saloon ... by a big margin.
Pop shaft - zero is exposed and this dcues drag a lot.
I could go on and on. David Marlow talked and showed us around non-stop for 4.5 hours.
The new smaller Marlow's are just the same quality and are at bargain prices... also they will offer good support, even in the UK.
One is just going to Italy and another to Ireland so the are just beginning to trickle in around us ......
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jfm
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Re: Marlow trial
yes yes, have seen the website. Dont know which model(s) gludy looked at. Was just keen to get his first hand account of the trial
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yes yes, have seen the website. Dont know which model(s) gludy looked at. Was just keen to get his first hand account of the trial
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jfm
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Re: Marlow trial
That's good value. A sq66 is £1.25m vat, a 74 is £1.8m vat, frexample. Weak dollar is helping a lot.
Yes I hear they install a manifold system so no seacocks all over the place.
Go on, buy one
Any pix?
That's good value. A sq66 is £1.25m vat, a 74 is £1.8m vat, frexample. Weak dollar is helping a lot.
Yes I hear they install a manifold system so no seacocks all over the place.
Go on, buy one
Any pix?
Gludy
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I am looking for a new boat ... fact.
I want a boat that allows my familty to enjoy getting there as well as arriving there and frankly that rules out a planing hull.
I want a boat capable of long distance cruising and Class A hull etc.
I also want a boat that I can use on one engine at displacement speed or use both for higher speeds.
Taking the Tarquin 575 Trader.
On one engine at hull speed of 9.9 knots it would give about 1.7mpg.
My squaddies does about 0.6mpg. So the trader offers me the choice of what speed to go and offers four times the range.
Increase speed in the Trader and you start to push water - I am told that at 18 knots it does about 0.6mpg and the consumption gets worse as you go above that. I had a harbour trail in one that did 24.6 knots top speed. It was the show boat at SIBS and had a pair of 700hp engines in it that seemed to big to me. it has the anticapting type latest stabilisers and in the harbour at any speed sat superbly in the water despite a 25 knot wind.
So, if the above is right, the Trader offers me a comfortable ride to a destination. Up to 18 knits I can save on fuel and over 18 I really lose out but thats OK for short hops. I also get extended cruising.
I am totally open to ideas for the new boat but I currently cannot afford to have my squaddie and a new boat, so I am looking for partX.
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I want a boat that allows my familty to enjoy getting there as well as arriving there and frankly that rules out a planing hull.
I want a boat capable of long distance cruising and Class A hull etc.
I also want a boat that I can use on one engine at displacement speed or use both for higher speeds.
Taking the Tarquin 575 Trader.
On one engine at hull speed of 9.9 knots it would give about 1.7mpg.
My squaddies does about 0.6mpg. So the trader offers me the choice of what speed to go and offers four times the range.
Increase speed in the Trader and you start to push water - I am told that at 18 knots it does about 0.6mpg and the consumption gets worse as you go above that. I had a harbour trail in one that did 24.6 knots top speed. It was the show boat at SIBS and had a pair of 700hp engines in it that seemed to big to me. it has the anticapting type latest stabilisers and in the harbour at any speed sat superbly in the water despite a 25 knot wind.
So, if the above is right, the Trader offers me a comfortable ride to a destination. Up to 18 knits I can save on fuel and over 18 I really lose out but thats OK for short hops. I also get extended cruising.
I am totally open to ideas for the new boat but I currently cannot afford to have my squaddie and a new boat, so I am looking for partX.
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Gludy
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Re: Marlow trial
I would have to sell my squaddie first!!!
I took my video camera and digital still camera and did not take one photo..... I did not want to interupt the info flow coming from David. I did not get to sea in her because they were so busy.
David is a great guy and spent 4.5 hours with us every second of which was a non-stop information flow. When you look at a Marlow it is David that is in every boat.
I know second hand of what owners think of them and know how highly regarded Marlow is.
I will be capable of going to that level within very few years but at present I have to rule it out ... unless someone wants to buy a superbly fitted out and maintained Squadron 59 that is. ... and even then it would be two years wait.
The new Trader 64, whilst I accept is nt in the same class as a Marlow, seems to be a good boat, so that alos interest me because I can part X my way into it.
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I would have to sell my squaddie first!!!
I took my video camera and digital still camera and did not take one photo..... I did not want to interupt the info flow coming from David. I did not get to sea in her because they were so busy.
David is a great guy and spent 4.5 hours with us every second of which was a non-stop information flow. When you look at a Marlow it is David that is in every boat.
I know second hand of what owners think of them and know how highly regarded Marlow is.
I will be capable of going to that level within very few years but at present I have to rule it out ... unless someone wants to buy a superbly fitted out and maintained Squadron 59 that is. ... and even then it would be two years wait.
The new Trader 64, whilst I accept is nt in the same class as a Marlow, seems to be a good boat, so that alos interest me because I can part X my way into it.
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Gludy
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Re: Marlow trial
I do have a pile of pix of Marlows that I did not take but were sent to me, I shall dig them out.
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I do have a pile of pix of Marlows that I did not take but were sent to me, I shall dig them out.
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Gludy
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Re: Marlow trial
We inspected the Marlow 78e, 70e,61e
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We inspected the Marlow 78e, 70e,61e
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