Strong winds - damage at Kingston Boatyard, East Cowes

[johnalison]

I like the idea of tie-ropes, which I have only seen once, in Sweden near Malmo. The trouble may be that it can be less economical of space. My marina tends to place boats a bit higgledy-piggledy, making best use of different sizes and set shore berths would inevitably mean fixed positions, perhaps varying according to size.

 

[SaltyC]

Did you not see it lifted then. If I had seen that I would have wanted to know how they thought it would work.

Incompetence on their part and i hope boat can be repaired promptly

En route to Desty's on 15th Jan.

 

[[70521]]

Boats used to have their masts removed for winter, maybe yards stopped doing this because masts take up a lot of room, maybe because of damage stepping and unstepping, or cars reversing into the masts in storage. I had my halyards stolen from my mast on a rack once. But when you see this picture, it kind of makes sense to take it down.

Not seen yards routinely unstep masts in decades. Out of the thousands of boats stored ashore each winter the number falling out of their cradles is miniscule.

We're these boats in proper cradles, or were they shored?

Looking at the picture they are in cradles. I much prefer shoring as there are more points of contact.

 

[rogerthebodger]

This is the cradle I used to build my boat on. It also stood on that cradle for several years in a local harbour

I had on for 4.5 years in the open all the time.

It not always about the number of points of support its also about the strength and how it held down if any

https://flic.kr/p/VGzPK3

 

[Tranona]

Not seen yards routinely unstep masts in decades. Out of the thousands of boats stored ashore each winter the number falling out of their cradles is miniscule.

Looking at the picture they are in cradles. I much prefer shoring as there are more points of contact.

Surely that depends on the cradle and even more importantly the quality of the shoring. Shoring has gone out of use because of the high rate of failures and subsequent claims meaning insurers often will only insure yards which use cradles or stands where appropriate.

 

[rotrax]

Wellington has won its battle to be classed as the worlds windyest city, narrowly beating San Francisco.

The yard at at Evans Bay Yacht and Motorboat club has full size one piece cradles with built in cross bracing using turnbuckles. The are proprietary cradles, they use the same at the Hornet Sailing Club in Gosport. Very good indeed.

 

[dunedin]

Not seen yards routinely unstep masts in decades. Out of the thousands of boats stored ashore each winter the number falling out of their cradles is miniscule.….

Might depend how sheltered where you lay up.

Where we are masts are allowed to stay up if going into a strong metal cradle. Any furling jibs have to be fully removed before they will lift out of the water.
If being shored with props they insist the mast comes off. The issue seemed to be with vibration in very strong winds gradually shaping the props loose.

 

[Supertramp]

Might depend how sheltered where you lay up.

Where we are masts are allowed to stay up if going into a strong metal cradle. Any furling jibs have to be fully removed before they will lift out of the water.
If being shored with props they insist the mast comes off. The issue seemed to be with vibration in very strong winds gradually shaping the props loose.

I can relate to that. I spent a few days aboard in 45 knt gusts while shored up ashore with mast up and sails off. The vibration through the whole boat was significant, my tea had ripples in it! Quite different from the same experience afloat when the vibration is a lower frequency and much less (and accompanied by heeling and lurching). Props still in place!