Magnum
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I wonder why stern-to mooring in UK marinas is not more common? I'm not talking about personal choice, but rather marina layout. It's loads more secure and is a much more efficient use of space, unless I'm missing something important?
Stern-to mooring in UK
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peterbird
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Maybe they don't know how to reverse???????
jfm
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"unless I'm missing something important?"
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hlb
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Think its to do with tradition and evolution. Stern to mooring might work in the med, with no tide. Try it in the bristol channel and thirteen metres!!
Magnum
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Yeah, OK, up rivers, but what about in semi-enclosed marinas?
PCUK
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It's archaic, there's nothing more convenient than a pontoon alongside. Also many UK boats don't have the fancy passerelle. (some of us can't even spell it!).
Magnum
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It can't be lack of passarelle as floating pontoons are much lower than fixed med ones. Easy to hop off the back of the bathing platform.
Frontier
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I wondered why so many boats were bow in, it's so much easier just walking on and off through the gate stern-to,
I guess if you are sitting on your cockpit in the summer on a busy pontoon you might feel like the pandas in the zoo as people go by.
Reversing in was not too bad, I had never done it before and had no experience of the boat to speak of, but it was a nice day so not much wind to worry about.
I guess if you are sitting on your cockpit in the summer on a busy pontoon you might feel like the pandas in the zoo as people go by.
Reversing in was not too bad, I had never done it before and had no experience of the boat to speak of, but it was a nice day so not much wind to worry about.
PCUK
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Apart from the passerelle, boats like mine with a tender on davits make access across the stern impossible. That is why I tend to moor bows on, Oh, and I also find it easier to get into a strange mooring this way. Also, it is less problematic getting out than getting in.
LeytonC
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Sharpness Marina on the gloucester and sharpness canal has a row of moorings like this, and i find it far easier to get on and off the moorings - like Pershilla i have davits and tender at the back so i go in bow first. The only real problem with a system like this is when someone puts a rope from the mooring bouys to the pontoon at about 3 foot under the water(!) and you get it in a prop! not a problem for me on legs, but if a shaft drive boat gets a rope caught its a diver down job.
Sharness use it on normal boats and for narrow boats - the advantage is you can pack loads of boats together, but you need the width. Sharpness has this but no where else on the river or canal has the kind of width you need, so sharpness is the only place you see this. Marinas could do it, but they are all pontoons now, so i doubt they could be bothered to change it.
Sharness use it on normal boats and for narrow boats - the advantage is you can pack loads of boats together, but you need the width. Sharpness has this but no where else on the river or canal has the kind of width you need, so sharpness is the only place you see this. Marinas could do it, but they are all pontoons now, so i doubt they could be bothered to change it.
Nick_H
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and is a much more efficient use of space
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I think you need wider fairways for stern to mooring, therefore less efficient use of space
and is a much more efficient use of space
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I think you need wider fairways for stern to mooring, therefore less efficient use of space
Magnum
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I think you need wider fairways for stern to mooring, therefore less efficient use of space
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Do you? Not sure I agree with that and my experience of UK and med marinas suggests otherwise. Only exception would be lots of alongside berths as in St Peter Port.
I think you need wider fairways for stern to mooring, therefore less efficient use of space
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Do you? Not sure I agree with that and my experience of UK and med marinas suggests otherwise. Only exception would be lots of alongside berths as in St Peter Port.
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Magnum, its partly tradition and partly I think its because of the windy weather we have. High winds put a lot of load on a raft of stern-to moored boats so its better to have individual finger pontoons. I know stern-to mooring is prevalent in the Med but I've noticed that in windy areas like the Golf de Lion, many marinas have finger pontoons or box moorings
I do agree though that finger pontoons are wasteful of space
I do agree though that finger pontoons are wasteful of space
mainshiptom
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the diffrencebetween detached houses to terraced ?
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Frontier
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Ah the tender, yes I had forgotten about that.
Mine was on the stern originally but because I have problems with the boat I put it on the coachroof so I sould walk on and off with the crates of tools and all the junk you think you need to do a job onboard.
When I put it on the stern again it will be in the way. Still it was fun going in astern /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Mine was on the stern originally but because I have problems with the boat I put it on the coachroof so I sould walk on and off with the crates of tools and all the junk you think you need to do a job onboard.
When I put it on the stern again it will be in the way. Still it was fun going in astern /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Its_Only_Money
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Lots of finger pontoons aren´t parallel, they are wider at the inboard end and narrow outboard, guess this lets you have greater lateral strength in the system whilst keeping the distance between berths as narrow as possible - but it does mean the resulting berth shape favours bows in.
Phoenix of Hamble
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Also go look around a UK marina, and see how many boats don't have a bathing platform!
EME
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"unless I'm missing something important?"
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...and of course I have ALWAYS known that ( where's the Pinnoccio smiley)....you only have to see the difference it makes with the small Med rise and fall /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
"unless I'm missing something important?"
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...and of course I have ALWAYS known that ( where's the Pinnoccio smiley)....you only have to see the difference it makes with the small Med rise and fall /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
ArthurWood
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In Florida, FWIW, we have stern to and a finger pier. But there's not much tide. All very convenient, actually. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
jfm
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I dont understand Magnum
In a tidal location, you could have a pontoon to tie the stern of the boats to. The pontoon would rise/fall with the tide, on piles, as UK marinas do now. All ok. But what are you going to tie the bow of the boat to? Certainly not to a bow line attached to a concrete block on the seabed, like in the med. Because as the tide rises and falls it will go tight/slack.
So what you thinking of for the bow? The only thing I can think of would be a pair of piles
In a tidal location, you could have a pontoon to tie the stern of the boats to. The pontoon would rise/fall with the tide, on piles, as UK marinas do now. All ok. But what are you going to tie the bow of the boat to? Certainly not to a bow line attached to a concrete block on the seabed, like in the med. Because as the tide rises and falls it will go tight/slack.
So what you thinking of for the bow? The only thing I can think of would be a pair of piles
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