Starter Boat?

[mustard]

In this on-going quest for a good starter boat, I saw a Cranchi Endurance on my local marina - looked well made, but any experiences good or bad from you lot out there with the brand if not this particular model...

Thank you

 

[wakeup]

That'll be a 40 footer then as a starter boat #####!!!!!!!!

I thought I was being brave with a 22 footer as my first boat.

I believe that is what they call going LARGE at McDonalds.

I think that the endurance is about the best looking 40 footer around, don't know much about them though they seem better value for money than princess and fairline for simmillar size.

yada yada..

 

[mustard]

Is that not a good idea? I've little money and no sense I know, but it seemed a handy size - plenty have done it. Haven't they?

 

[david_e]

Re: Cranchi

How does one pronounce this?

Is it Cranhi as in Church or Cranchi as Cranky?

 

[azzurro]

I've had a 24' Cranchi and couldn't fault the build quality, it's the only boat I've had which was right from day one (new) and never went wrong/or bits fell off. They are definitely good value compared to the usual British competition although the interiors are not to everyones taste. Their manufacturing process relies heavily on high tech/computer controlled machinery and seems to be state of the art in boat building terms.
They are usually in short supply also so will hold its value.

Good luck!

 

[wakeup]

No it sounds great, but I would recommend you get some training on any new boat

yada yada..

 

[Guest]

Thers a real sexy looking Cranchi 39 (endurance I think it is) in our Marina. Inclined to agree they are a
handsome machine, whether better looking than the equivalent Targa is a matter of opinion

"The Med is calling me"

 

[BarryH]

Re: Cranchi

Its pronounced "Crunchy" if you get it all wrong!!

OK, to hell with it. Unbolt it and we'll use it as an anchor!

 

[DavidJ]

Having reached 37 ft in 4 hops I can quite honestly say that larger boats are easier to handle than smaller ones. Also there seems to be always more help on hand at the marina with a larger boat......Go for it
Be prepared for 50 litres per hour fuel consumption though.

 

[petem]

Decent enough boats, said to be the Italian equivalent of Sealine (i.e. made by Italian postmen instead of English postmen). Were good value due to strong pound against Lire. Not sure now that Italy in Euroland.

The 39 has tender storage under the sunded which makes engine access difficult, i.e. you need to get the tender out to get to the engines for checks).

I like the off white/ivory colour which will age better than white.

Windy and Cranchi are the only non UK boats I'd buy.

Heard it pronounced Cranchi and Cranky.

 

[mustard]

If you mean Fairline Targa have to agree - their 37 & 43 are very good looking cruisers, probably my preference. Thought the Cranchi looked good value in comparison, especially c/f the Sealine C39 I was very tempted by, but tooo expensive specced up. Really wanted to get a feel for reliability etc of the Crunchy, didn't want to buy a Lancia.

Also seems beamier, Targa 37 is a little thin, don't you think?

But thanks for your imput....

 

[Guest]

Would'nt fancy an Azimut then Pete ?

"The Med is calling me"

 

[petem]

Azimut

Being an Alfa and Fiat owner I like Italian styling. Gorgeous, but possibly a little quirky for the UK IMHO. Maybe difficult to shift on compared to the competition?

Azimut 100 Jumbo is however the dogs whatsits.

 

[petem]

Targas are 'thin' for a reason.

Fat = slow and uneconomical
Thin = fast and economical.

 

[mustard]

Re: Azimut

BollockS?

 

[RayB]

Re: Azimut

no b*****ks

he is right!

"Hopefully that won't be too expensive to fix?"

 

[mustard]

Re: Azimut

Apologies. Having difficulty working out what words are acceptable here. Antipodean problem. I stopped using v****o because it seemed like a swear work you poms didn't ever use.

Frankly, I thought he had a problem with remembered the dogs parts, not whether a narrow boat was faster. . Or is he right about the Azimut being the dogs, em bits.

Anyway, for some reason I always thought the larger the wetted area in contact with the surface, the faster the boat could be, with the correct hull configaration, and also noted that the quoted top speed for the Cranchi and the Targa are not dissimilar for the same engines. I mean, we make wider surfboards to go faster with less effort in slower English waves, while the narrow boards are restricted to fast foreign waves. Must be different dynamics at force, and it seems logical.

 

[stewart]

Size

Ignore all those who tell you not too buy a big boat as a first one. A year ago I bought my first, 46', and apart from a couple of tricky times the first couple of attempts I brought it back to the marina (stern to berthing in the med) the size has been absolutely the right decision. It's not cheap to change a boat so why take 4 steps to get to a sensible size if you can afford it now?!

I think the Cranchi is a great boat (looked at them when I bought mine but the waiting list for a new one was huge) though I seem to remember the accomodation was limited though if you can live with that I think a great choice.

 

[petem]

Probably fairer to compare Cranchi Endurance 39 with Targa 40. Cranchi is very slightly longer and very slightly thinner.

 

[haydon]

I have been working for this company for the last six months so can answer a few of your questions

nothing wrong with the endurance 39 as a starter boat if you feel the following are not a problem...

EDC controls coupled with Kad 44s which make the boat very lively when moving about in a marina until you are familiar ... a little bit risky first off.

It's pronounced cranky ( french /italian for crab)

the endurance has a garage and quit rightly the tender has to be removed to access the engin compartment, but this is a 5'square section that is not easy to remove singlehanded. However their is an inspection hatch port side walkway which allows engin checks.

Massive cockpit area but only one cabin midships plus drop down dinet which makes a massive double bed.

I have done quite a few miles in these boats and can say the handle a treat.