Smokers on board.

graham

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I definitely dont allow it below but tolerate people having a smoke in the cockpit.

With the close proximity of the mainsail not to mention the outboards petrol tank and so far unscorched gelcoat I cant relax while someones smoking.

Am I being paranoid ?what do others do?

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I smoke in the cockpit, don't drop much ash and have only burned a few holes in things. Don't think you should worry too much.

Cigar smoke is great for getting people who are feeling a bit queasy to sort themselves out properly.

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I guess "sorted out properly"means feeling a bit better after the first technicoloured yawn ,side deck pizza or whatever.

And there was me thinking smoking didnt have a usefull side.Silly me....

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Matter of personal choice I guess.

I smoke and smoke in the cockpit and cabin, but reluctantly put it out before working in the engine compartment.

So far have managed not to burn anything and avoid ash being blown everywhere by using one of those ashtrays with the push down spinning plate. Took the spring out so the plate just sits there already open and the ash falls underneath.

Bill

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I used to smoke, but found it was only ever acceptable while in the leward corner of the cockpit, even on my own boat. If you smoke on the windward side, you're forever filling you cockpit and peoples eyes with ash . Smoker or non smoker, NEVER below IMO. If it's very wet, you can get away with blowing smoke out of the companionway if the boat is lying into the wind. Best place was sitting under the sprayhood, with a cup of tea, on the leward side. As people say, it's all personal choice and dependent on the company.

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Lets get this straight,given our knowledge of what smoking does to you,you cannot escape from the conclusion that any one still smoking is an idiot.Do you want an idiot on your boat?
I don`t


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That was tongue in cheek, sorry.

Actually I am considerate, and have never burned anything I didn't mean to.

Petrol cans really ought to be in the anchor well because cockpit lockers are often slightly connected to the general bilge through cable holes etc..

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Quote: Cigar smoke is great for getting people who are feeling a bit queasy to sort themselves out properly.

That's the quote of the year, certainly will be written down in the logbook for good...

In doubt, I used the ask the crew if they were ready for a Bradwurst on a bun, topped with wipping cream.... yours certainly more subtile!

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I don\'t allow it on board

at all.

If guests smoke, and I have not had one yet who does, they would be asked to smoke on shore and well away from the boat.

I agree with the medics who say that, with the current state of knowledge, any one who still smokes is an idiot.

Why have idiots on board?

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Re: I don\'t allow it on board

Statistics. Since it must be true that a person dies on a boat for every X,000 miles sailed, inviting the smoker onto your boat will ensure that it's him and not you surely?

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What a totally illogical crap statement- you're saying all smokers are idiots, therefore will make poor crew- have you ever smoked?? I've sailed with loads of smokers and I must say, they were pretty good yachtsmen. I am in no way saying that smoking is good for you, makes you live longer or makes you attractive to the opposite sex. I'm saying that having smoked in the past, I can see both sides and can see the enjoyment, but as GP now with a special interest in respiratory medicine, I cannot condone smoking and strongly attempt to help people stop.

The argument here is about personal choice on your boat and whether you allow other people to smoke on your boat. I do allow people, but expect people to exhibit "smokers courtesy" as to where the smoke and the ash goes and generally not expecct other people to passive smoke.



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You're a cheerful sort with clear opinions. Well done.

Being an idiot myself, what fascinates me is the flight trajectory of ash in a cockpit. Doesn't matter if you flick it to leeward, it gracefully alights on it's own flight path back into the cockpit.

So, my rule with smokers is you have to clean the cockpit before you go home. Wouldn't ever allow it below, after that it's common sense. Like most things on a boat. Not overly worried about setting sails alight either.

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Parahandy has prehensile toes and hangs horizontally off jimi's taffrail puffing while all the time presuming no-one else has noticed. It's like being followed by a bonfire.

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Re: I don\'t allow it on board

Blimey o'Reilly

<If guests smoke, and I have not had one yet who does>
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<they would be asked to smoke on shore and well away from the boat>
Are you carrying explosives?

Sounds like you may well have some idiots on board.


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I know- I am that bonfire. I have to go aft and hang off the liferaft pretending to inspect water flow from the transom.

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Try cigars - the ash is just that bit heavier and can maintain escape velocity in most conditions.

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I'll have a go, though my next give-up date has just come through.

Any particular make? I can't imagine anything less than a good Vllliers will have the critical mass, let alone elevate me from the idiotic.

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