RYA Training Route Map a bit confusing!

In April 2013, photographs on an ID style card replaced course completion certificates for Day Skipper and Coastal Skipper courses. This is used to prevent fraudulent issue of the old style paper certs.

That makes more sense to be honest! I did the last of my courses in 2012 I think, I guess maybe some did the photo IDs early :-)
 
In April 2013, photographs on an ID style card replaced course completion certificates for Day Skipper and Coastal Skipper courses. This is used to prevent fraudulent issue of the old style paper certs.

Are there many fake Dazed Kippers out there?
 
Some schools give paper certs, some photo ID's. I'm not really sure why!

They should all now be giving photo ID cards. There was a period of a couple of years 2011-2012 I think, where schools could choose which to give. The photo ID cards were more expensive for schools to purchase so some didn't use them until they had to. Since 2013 they all use the same certificates.

One of the advantages of photo ID cards is that many places accept them instead of the ICC and, unlike the ICC, they don't need to be renewed.
 
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So much thanks to you all for your input. So the Photo ID has replaced the certificate, I see. I like the photo ID, but was hoping for the certificate as well so that my Log book would be properly endorsed with the various certs. Never mind, just an anal thing on my side. After all I used to collect football stickers when I was a kid and there was nothing like the feeling of satisfaction when you filled a spot and got one step closer to completing the album! ;-)

I also completely understand the steps of the RYA Training Route Map now. Thanks again for that!
 
Thanks everyone for your previous help. One last question which is still on topic of RYA qualifications:

The RYA Log Book states that the miles and experience required for "Coastal Yachtmaster" should be completed within the last 10 years. However it doesn't say this for the 2,500 miles (50 days) required for the "Yachtmaster Offshore". Does this mean that your whole sailing career can contribute to the 2,500 and not just the last 10 years?

The reason I ask is I have come back to sailing in my late-30s / early 40s - however in my 20s I did a considerable about of sailing throughout the Caribbean in a period I call my "Apprenticeship"! I logged 1,500 miles during that time, including many night hours and long passages.

Your expertise would be much appreciated!
 
Thanks everyone for your previous help. One last question which is still on topic of RYA qualifications:

The RYA Log Book states that the miles and experience required for "Coastal Yachtmaster" should be completed within the last 10 years. However it doesn't say this for the 2,500 miles (50 days) required for the "Yachtmaster Offshore". Does this mean that your whole sailing career can contribute to the 2,500 and not just the last 10 years?

The reason I ask is I have come back to sailing in my late-30s / early 40s - however in my 20s I did a considerable about of sailing throughout the Caribbean in a period I call my "Apprenticeship"! I logged 1,500 miles during that time, including many night hours and long passages.

Your expertise would be much appreciated!

Details here, it does need to be in the last ten years
http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/exams/Pages/Yachtmasteroffshore.aspx
Minimum seatime 50 days, 2,500 miles including at least 5 passages over 60 miles measured along the rhumb line from the port of departure to the destination, acting as skipper for at least two of these passages and including two which have involved overnight passages. 5 days experience as skipper. At least half this mileage and passages must be in tidal waters. All qualifying seatime must be within 10 years prior to the exam.
 
jordanbasset has pointed out the right answer online, however it is also correct in the G15 Logbook too.

I don't know where you are looking, but in the 2014 version, Page 1, under the heading "Previous experience and minimum sea time" it says "see note 1".
At the bottom of the page Note 1 says "Within 10 years of examination".

In any event, it is down to the YM Examiner to go through your experience at the start of the exam to satisfy herself that you have done what is expected. This gives a good initial impression of the candidate. If they have clocked up all their 60 mile passages by sailing from the Solent to Cherbourg and back, or 2500miles in one Atlantic crossing, it is less impressive than somebody whose Personal Log shows they have 'spread their wings'.
 
OK thanks BlueSkyNick and JordanBasset for pointing me in the right direction.

I see now the reference to "Note 1" on the first page of G15 - I was reading the detailed description of the Yachtmaster exams on page 49 - where it says sea time is required in the last 10 years for YM Coastal but is not mentioned for YM Offshore. Just an oversight I guess, but your answers/references are unequivocal.

Thanks so much.
 
OK thanks BlueSkyNick and JordanBasset for pointing me in the right direction.

I see now the reference to "Note 1" on the first page of G15 - I was reading the detailed description of the Yachtmaster exams on page 49 - where it says sea time is required in the last 10 years for YM Coastal but is not mentioned for YM Offshore. Just an oversight I guess, but your answers/references are unequivocal.

Thanks so much.

Yep, you are also right! I also think it is an oversight.
 
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