RIB's

[Moose]

RIB\'s

The Moose family want's a RIB, because No1 had a go in one and is now totally hooked on going 25kt's 6 inches from the water!
I would need a secondhand one, but they seem to be like gold dust at the moment (Avon 280 or Avon 310) Any ideas where to look? Anybody have one lying around?
If you see one could you tell me, pleaseeeeee!!


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EL MOOSEO

 

[Happy1]

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He could always have a go in my boat, 42knots 1ft above the water /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Better than a RIB IMHO, and don't need to worry about the tubes detaching from the bow when it stuffs the water at speed /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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[pistonbroke]

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Quote: "don't need to worry about the tubes detaching from the bow when it stuffs the water at speed"

This seems to be more of a problem than I realised, judging by the number of posts on the rib forum. And they do seem to be rather touchy about the subject.

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[AJW]

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Akershally I think a lot of the emotion on the rib.net forum is more to do with certain wind ups and troll type activity. I am not sure that "detubing" incidents are all that widespread. The ones I know of are either during racing or fairly "extreme" conditions. There is an interesting debate (if you can cut through the bull and windups) on tube attachment, hard bows vs soft bows etc. Its particularly relavent to larger heavy RIBS at high speed - which presumably is why Redbay and Scorpion put hard bows on their larger boats, and why Alan Priddy has about 2 inches thick of reinforcing hypalon over the bow of the Spirit of....sorry...errm...Jolly Sailor!

As for 42kts in a Glastron....I've been in exact same boat with bigger engine at 50kts and its fine in the flat. Any chop though and its crashity bang, ouch, slow down, ohh my back. Shallow V hull and crap seats. Nuff said.

AJ.

(Ex Ribster)

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[pistonbroke]

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AJ,

when you say "ex ribster", does this mean you've bought a proper boat?

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[Happy1]

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AJW, maybe it was the driver /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif If I stuck a thin tube round my boat I could call it a cabin rib, bit like a Scorpion, and charge stupid money for it, like £70,000. I do think people who buy RIB's are being totally ripped of, for what really is a load of cold air, and a fashionable thing at the moment /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

When reality sets in or perhaps a bit of maturity, they will get something sensible. I have no intention in going out in bad conditions, although I am more than happy with anything the weather has thrown at me so far. As for going at 50knots I must admit I think that may be a bit much for that boat constantly, 42knots now and again does me.

OH! and as for crash bang wallop, I haven't had much of that, perhaps it is my comfy seats, but are you saying that RIB's have suspension seating, and wave absorbing hulls /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif I have been thrown about a lot more in a RIB than my boat, it's a matter of reading the waves, and taking the right route through them. I can show you if you are around the SE some weekend, seems that you could be in for a nasty injury unless you or whoever was driving you don't get some power boat training /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Mind you a bit of fun now and again is OK with the right crew, but they must be tough and up for it, and everything secured or otherwise it will spoil their day and they won't go out again /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

I really think you just like dressing up in rubber (dry suite), I can enjoy my day in my suite and tie, and still stay dry /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif. I can also anchor up, have a meal cooked on my cooker, go to the toilet, have a cold drink from my fridge/coolbox, watch a bit of TV, clean my teeth in my sink and then have a sleep in the lovely double bed in my cabin. Oh! and in the morning have a full English breakfast & TOAST listening to the Radio or a relaxing CD on my built in CD Radio stereo. Must be miserable with an open RIB having to go to a mooring, then tramp around the town soaking wet in your rubbers with a rucksack looking for a B&B /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif, You can always move over from the fashionable shallow 'rip off' dark side and see the light here /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

All IMHO of course

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[AJW]

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Pete, I bow to your immense superior wisdom based on your many years and experience of boat ownership. Clearly I have been doing everything wrong these past years. Its amazing how I got round Britain in one piece for instance. Having sold my RIB I will of course now be looking for a 19ft American speedboat designed for use on Inland lakes. Cos thats what I need isnt it!

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[Happy1]

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Err 6.137 metres actually, remember every inch counts /forums/images/icons/wink.gif especially at marina's when the welcome you for your annual berth /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Sorry Mr Priddy, I didn't realise it was you, I realise you don't need a dry suite as you can just wear the T'shirt /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Congratulations on getting enough experience so you can take the armbands off your boat now /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif You must feel a sense of achievement without them /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Seriously though, I hope the back problem sorts itself out, and remember you are welcome to come for a ride if you are over my way. I am sure could still teach me a thing or two, but isn't boating brilliant /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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[DepSol]

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AJW is not Alan Priddy, I can assure you of that. Please don’t try and come back on this with one of your silly comments saying how do you know blah this blah that because I am telling you it isnt him so just take that as read.

As for RIBs they are becoming very popular. A friend of mine from Jersey (yeesh did I say I had a friend in Jersey!) went to Fowey in a Scorpion RIB with twin petrols in a F5 and was still making 28 knots with family on board. On the way back he set the sort of time I could only dream of in a F4 and although his petrol consumption is higher than mine his time was half so prob didn’t cost that much to make the trip. RIBs have their purpose and if you think your 19footer can seriously handle bad weather at high speeds by ‘reading the waves’

I think you have not really experienced bad weather. A friend of mine has a maxum 1900 which is similar to yours and although he can do 44knots and I can only do 35 I had to slow down and wait for him, down to about 17 knots on the way back from dielette and he was sitting behind me in the flatter water my boat had created.

As for the fact that you can cook your own brekkie with the price saving on most RIBs that alone can buy a lot of cooked brekkies, especially if you compare the price of extras. Its what you like at the end of the day RIBs have there purpose as do Sports cruisers and HTs and FBs.



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Now where is that Brendan hiding?

 

[Happy1]

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Depsol don't get out of your pram, I know fine well who AJW is, I was making a light hearted comment after which I went into serious mode inviting him out for a ride.

Re rough weather, I didn't buy my current boat to take out in dangerous conditions, that firstly were not suitable for that boat, or secondly would put my family at risk. Now I am in the market for a boat to go out a bit further, I am looking at bigger, and hopefuly twin engines. I don't care what boat you have, if you lose your one and only engine in really bad conditions you are in for a rough time. I have got a spare for mine, but it's top speed is 3.2 knots, that is fine for where I go, but would be no good in other conditions, you have to be equipped for the conditions you may encounter or plan to go through.

I have nothing against RIBS, they are nice toys, but a bit like a jet ski, after a few circles and wave jumping, and exploring it gets boring. I like the relaxation of boating, but as you say everyone to their own. It is a good toy for people who can't park though, with all that air around /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

In looking at new boats I have been having to choose between comfort and utilitarian e.g. lifeboat type looks. We have to decide on where we want to venture and buy accordingly, perhaps we are not quite ready to choose yet, I don't want to go for a boat that I will regret buying.

I have noticed that on a lot of occassions that I have been out in not so good weather (not as rough as you are on about, but rough to me), there has been nobody else about, maybe they are just fairweather sailors in the Medway, not many RIB's about. I do find it great going into the lock in a really rough sea and wind, certainly tests your bottle /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Anyway, glad you are enjoying your boat, have a nice week.

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[AJW]

Alan Priddy

Errm no I'm not Priddy, different Alan. Never passed myself off as AP to the best of my knowledge. I have done a fair amount of Ribbing in UK incl round Britain, South West to Hebrides & back etc. Not in Mr P's league of course and as I say clearly not in H1's. I've also broken my rule of not getting into debates with his happyship as you can never win an argumment with someone as knowledgeable, worldly wise and fairminded as him /forums/images/icons/wink.gif.

BTW Dom if you speak to CStCB of the twin engined Scorpion fame he'll give you my real secret identity!


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[AJW]

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BTW Pete, you might be in for a shock this weekend if you are around Chatham. Should be ohh 6-10 RIBS arriving Sat night. And not a toaster in sight. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif



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[Happy1]

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AJ, sorry but I think I may be down in Poole with the boat this weekend, shame as I could have had a few beers with you /forums/images/icons/wink.gif Anyway I am waiting to see what the weather is going to be like, if it is not so good I will be at Chatham, if it is fine we will go to Poole. If we go to Poole then my berth will be free (10mtrs), so if anyone wants to use it feel free, I don't know what MDL do about that but I am sure they would sort something out. Just make sure the ribster using it is capable of managing a lock /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[Duckpatrol]

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Mate of mine detached the bows of a 30' halmatic in the lower reaches of the Thames, let alone out at sea!!!

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