eddystone
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Sitting out lockdown on boat ( not in a marina I hasten to add) I was wondering about quarantine flags; if the yellow Q flag is “no disease” then presumably Q +N would be correct for “disease on board”?
Quarantine Flag
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Refueler
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In Port / at anchor : Signal Flag L ... Lima
Maritime Signal Flag Lima: Ship is Under Quarantine - PortandTerminal.com
Maritime Signal Flag Lima: Ship is Under Quarantine - PortandTerminal.com
RumPunch
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I always thought the yellow WAS a disease on board
eddystone
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I’m reading off my RNLI tea towel here, yellow Q flag is “My vessel is heathy and I request free pratique “ To make it have opposite meaning it needs to be combined with another flag -I thought logically that would be the N negative flag
sarabande
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Lima means You should stop your vessel instantly.
Is Refueler's a local variation ?
QN means You should come alongside my Starboard side.
Is Refueler's a local variation ?
QN means You should come alongside my Starboard side.
eddystone
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That’s interesting - my tea towel says L Lima means “you should stop your vessel instantly “
But googling a bit confirms what you say; the Q flag used to mean under quarantine but now it means the opposite with the Lima flag conveying what Q used to - very confusing and do the RNLI know they are merchandising misleading tea towels
Sandy
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Perhaps in these times there will be a run on Lima flags?
Refueler
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The Q flag many years ago was a Quarantine Flag ... but later was the Free Pratique request flag ... indicating that vessel was free of disease and request Free Pratique.
it often gets mistaken for Quarantine still because no-one but State appointed officials my board a vessel flying the Q flag ..... only when those officials accept vessels request and flag is lowered can then others board the vessel / crew allowed ashore etc.
The 1969 INTERCO still lists L as "You should stop your Vessel Instantly"
There are various 2 letter signals such as RS : No-one is allowed on board ....but does not convey the reason.
You may choose to use such in the Z 2 letter signals regarding Pratique such as ZV : I have been in infected location in last 30 days
michael_w
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Without looking it up I think the correct hoist would be QQ. 'I have infectious disease on board' or in the past, 'my rats are dying'.
atol
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i'm in the same situation as the op,ie we have been laying in isolation on a mooring for the last 2 weeks,no real need to go to shore for the next 3 months or so,but was wondering if leaving the harbour to jig for some mackerel to top up the deep freeze would be considered against the spirit of the lockdown?
Stingo
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Mackerel should be eaten fresh, never frozen
laika
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Posted in another thread which I can't find now by capnsensible but..
By day (i.e., between sunrise and sunset):
(i) “Q” signifying “my ship is healthy and I request free pratique”.
(ii) “Q” flag over first substitute (QQ) signifying “my ship is suspect, that is to say, I have had a case or cases of infectious disease more than 5 days ago or there has been unusual mortality among rats on board”.
(iii) “Q” flag over “L” flag (QL) signifying “my ship is infected, that is to say, I have had a case or cases of infectious disease less than 5 days ago”.
By day (i.e., between sunrise and sunset):
(i) “Q” signifying “my ship is healthy and I request free pratique”.
(ii) “Q” flag over first substitute (QQ) signifying “my ship is suspect, that is to say, I have had a case or cases of infectious disease more than 5 days ago or there has been unusual mortality among rats on board”.
(iii) “Q” flag over “L” flag (QL) signifying “my ship is infected, that is to say, I have had a case or cases of infectious disease less than 5 days ago”.
RichardS
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Surely we went through all this "Q flag - dying rat" stuff a few days ago? 
Richard
Richard
Refueler
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You need to go back and google ...
Refueler
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Surely we went through all this "Q flag - dying rat" stuff a few days ago?
Richard
You must really be bored playing the Forum Police bit again ...
RichardS
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It would be a good point .... except that Laika got there before me so if I'm a mere Constable, then he's the Chief Inspector.
Richard
Refueler
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As I posted ... you could work through the two letter signals ...
Note : Take care with the N as a significance of previous group be read in the negative
Note : Take care with the N as a significance of previous group be read in the negative
zambant
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L Lima has 2 meanings
Fair winds
| In harbour: "The ship is quarantined." At sea: "You should stop your vessel instantly." |
Fair winds
laika
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I'm a mere Constable, then he's the Chief Inspector.
The only time anyone might have compared me to a member of the constabulary was after the episode of The Young Ones where Neil joins the police. Besides, I'm slightly suspicious of "QL": I'm wondering whether it might just be a local directive. As is being pointed out in a parallel thread at the moment, it doesn't appear in the ICOS.
sarabande
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My ICOS reference book (bought March 1971 when I did my Board of Trade ticket) gives
Lima as You should stop your vessel instantly.
It does not give a variant of the hoist's meaning for In harbour, whereas P does. IMO produced a new edition of ICOS in 2005, which is presumably when the L In harbour hoist was clarified.
I claim a derogation on grounds of the efflux of time.
