capnsensible
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Count their Willie's and divide by one.
PYH KICKING OUT 50% OF THEIR LIVABOARDS
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duncan_m
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Shame about pyh. I did get the faintest feeling while I was there they might be getting a little tired of the liveaboards.
It has long been a marina where people complete their final preparations before setting off on their circumnavigations. The marine services there are second to none imo.
It's anyone with a contract that started after 2015. A large swath if not the vast majority of whom are under 35-40.
These young energetic people were not always favoured and seen as some how lessor. Evident by the fact they were put on the furthest out pontoons in the marina.. Despite paying the same and endeavouring significantly more difficult refurbs, repowering to electric engines and using their boats to actually go sailing etc.
There was/maybe is a waiting list for annual berths after the MDL opposite allegedly wouldn't renew contracts during lockdown and forced owners to pay daily rates knowing that they couldn't move their boat.
That all down my guess is that the liveaboards outlived their commercial worth and having boats from the other side as preferable to reduce load on the office and wear on the pontoon slats.
Disappointing as some of the people from my understanding were prepping boats for circumnavigations. Albeit somewhat in the future for some.
A loss to boating culture and a shame as I've lost a lot of respect for yacht havens who I'd previously thought were above snobbery/ageism etc and were for proper sailors. This action is a clear statement that Yacht Havens are for the yachties rather than the sailors imo.
It has long been a marina where people complete their final preparations before setting off on their circumnavigations. The marine services there are second to none imo.
It's anyone with a contract that started after 2015. A large swath if not the vast majority of whom are under 35-40.
These young energetic people were not always favoured and seen as some how lessor. Evident by the fact they were put on the furthest out pontoons in the marina.. Despite paying the same and endeavouring significantly more difficult refurbs, repowering to electric engines and using their boats to actually go sailing etc.
There was/maybe is a waiting list for annual berths after the MDL opposite allegedly wouldn't renew contracts during lockdown and forced owners to pay daily rates knowing that they couldn't move their boat.
That all down my guess is that the liveaboards outlived their commercial worth and having boats from the other side as preferable to reduce load on the office and wear on the pontoon slats.
Disappointing as some of the people from my understanding were prepping boats for circumnavigations. Albeit somewhat in the future for some.
A loss to boating culture and a shame as I've lost a lot of respect for yacht havens who I'd previously thought were above snobbery/ageism etc and were for proper sailors. This action is a clear statement that Yacht Havens are for the yachties rather than the sailors imo.
roblpm
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The only thing I wonder about that is becoming a tax resident. When we were in the EU a digital nomad could have flown under the radar, hung about and noone would have cared. If you apply for this visa you surely are essentially telling them that you have a decent income and that after 180 days (I am assuming Greece is the same Sa many other countries) you will be tax resident. Tax return fun. Double tax agreements etc. I am actually a US citizen so 3 tax returns....?! ? As I have a letting property in the UK.
Though the brief thing does say you can apply for residency after the first year?
Fr J Hackett
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France for example has a duel taxation agreement with the UK so you can choose where you pay your tax on anything other than income actually derived from employment in France. So assuming your income is derived in the UK simply being resident for 6 months or more does not make you automatically liable to French taxation. Other countries have similar taxation arrangements.
roblpm
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Sure. But I'm sure they will want you to fill in a French tax return. I already do 2.....? But all good food for thought.
The Greek Digital Nomad visa is interesting for me. As I am digital. But as yet only a part time nomad.
roblpm
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Ps. I like the idea of a "duel" with the French Tax authorities! ?
ryanroberts
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I believe the big difference is that you are *not* tax resident, and not taking an income or operating a business from the country of residence. So only the two. The way I read it is that your nomad via can be extended and you need to re-apply every year. A slightly tenuous situation like an extended holiday but then it does have the word 'nomad' in it.
Fr J Hackett
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No you wouldn't take it from me.
Frogmogman
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interesting. The qualifying threshold of showing an income of €2000/ month or €2400/month for a couple seems eminently reasonable.
For a retired person, being tax resident in Greece is a pretty sweet deal (assuming the same deal is available to citizens of 3rd party countries as to EU citizens). For a French citizen who retires in Greece there is a deal where you pay income tax at a flat rate of 7% on your income in France, although this excludes income from property).
steve yates
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Consuming greenhouse gases is not the problem. Emitting them is.
LONG_KEELER
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You are quite right. Apologies.
Fr J Hackett
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When are the government going to ban farting and insist all old people homes have sniffers to seek out those selfish bastards despoiling the atmosphere.
LONG_KEELER
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Sandy
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I enjoy being an omnivore.
LONG_KEELER
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The game changer in recent years has to be fast food, McDonalds. Kentucky etc. This lead to the mega undercover farms. The food is cheap and convenient but does not reflect it's real price.
I saw a film the other day where it stated that it takes 660 gallons of water to produce one Mcdonalds burger. Everyone has to make their own decisions.
Poignard
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I think I would rather have 660 gallons of water forced down my throat than one McDonald's burger.
Stemar
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About the same as a t shirt, then. It probably isn't the production that's the problem, it's the excess consumption and throwaway society. At least the burger has nutritional value, for a certain definition of nutrition.
Sandy
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It has been some decades since I last experienced fast food, apart from a selection of fish and chips round the coast. Why is it every chippy in the land has an award? Some of the fish and chips were outstanding others disgusting. High points this summer was Pete's Fish Factory in Ramsgate, low points a chippy in Eyemouth.
ryanroberts
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This is an impressive level of thread drift
Concerto
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Thread drift indeed, but helpful. Those who are out of chips in PYH should go to Ramsgate for great fish and chips AND they allow liveaboards as it is a council run marina and they have to pay rates on top of their berthing charge.
