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Borris is a lame brained f wit. How we left a ventriloqists dummy in charge of the UK i dont know

We dont need this sort of stuff or language here. I have pressed the report button.

I think that's entirely appropriate language to describe the man who spaffed up ditties including the one about a young fellow from Ankara, is casually racist, provably dishonest and does the bidding of his dom.
 

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I think that's entirely appropriate language to describe the man who spaffed up ditties including the one about a young fellow from Ankara, is casually racist, provably dishonest and does the bidding of his dom.

Personally, I consider the dim wits to be the ones who can't resist turning otherwise sensible threads into political rants. If the cap fits, wear it.
 

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Personally, I consider the dim wits to be the ones who can't resist turning otherwise sensible threads into political rants. If the cap fits, wear it.
How to begin

This is a political post about UKs PM and his pronouncements. So political comment is what you might expect.

As a large number of the electorate didnt vote for his party and none voted for him, and he has visibly floundered then some of that comment will be highly critical.

The verdict on Starmer's questioning of BJ was that he had overestimated the intelligence of his opponent

Any strong leftwing opinion or observation is regarded by the right as a rant, but that doesnt make it untrue
 

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Thanks. No change then - still 91% in the 65+ age groups. Perhaps lw395 will explain to us why s/he thinks the age distribution has changed significantly since March.
Perhaps you can explain why the age distribution of Covid victims will be exactly the same in Scotland as it is in England?
Since policies have diverged and the places are different might it be different?
I don't know whether age distribution to date in England or the UK as a whole has changed, but repeatedly regurgitating March data is not helpful, some people do not seem to realise it is not current data.
The Scotland data is useful and interesting, thank you for sharing it.
 

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How to begin

This is a political post about UKs PM and his pronouncements. So political comment is what you might expect.

As a large number of the electorate didnt vote for his party and none voted for him, and he has visibly floundered then some of that comment will be highly critical.

The verdict on Starmer's questioning of BJ was that he had overestimated the intelligence of his opponent

Any strong leftwing opinion or observation is regarded by the right as a rant, but that doesnt make it untrue
This is the Yachting Forum. It would, in my view be best to keep this thread to the Ops question of what yachting is allowed after 4 July or whatever.
The politics are catered for in the other forum. Your diatribe merely dilutes any useful information in the thread.
 

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What you actually don't like is someone disagreeing with your world view. You then try to shutdown anything that is in disagreement with it.

Er no. What I don't like is people of whatever world view so deficient in mental acuity (yes that's both you and Heckler/Skipper Stu etc ) that they:

1. Can't recognise the difference between the Lounge and Scuttlebutt.
2. Believe that throwing insults around is political debate (or indeed is ever going to persuade anyone of the value of their case).
 

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Probably the OP put the post in the wrong forum. But as the PM decision is political and highly controversial then it is reasonable to respond politically.

The alternative is to accept every rule and regulation as god given, beyond dispute and question, and that we the populace have no rights to an opinion.

There is never a clear division between lounge and scuttlebutt, because all decisions re sailing are actually based on preferences prejudices, economics and the state of the human world (Unless you live alone on remote island, build boat with tools you have made and trees you have felled, and never plan to visit or pass any other inhabited land)
 
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OK back on topic.... what do we think will happen re:

a) Overnight anchoring in popular spots

b) Marina capacity for visitors (e.g no rafting, etc)

c) Harbourmaster patrols in boats e.g Yarmouth and Dart?

d) Go to the West Country or over to France?

e) How to avoid getting stuck in another lock down somewhere expensive?

Other issues around us having a very enjoyable holiday afloat this year?
 

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Er no. What I don't like is people of whatever world view so deficient in mental acuity (yes that's both you and Heckler/Skipper Stu etc ) that they:

1. Can't recognise the difference between the Lounge and Scuttlebutt.
2. Believe that throwing insults around is political debate (or indeed is ever going to persuade anyone of the value of their case).

The only "insult" I threw around was to support the notion that the PM is a pathological liar and as a public figure does not deserve to have his blushes spared. You, however, said I was dim and have deficient mental acuity. Not being very consistent, are you?
 

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Perhaps you can explain why the age distribution of Covid victims will be exactly the same in Scotland as it is in England?
Since policies have diverged and the places are different might it be different?
Latest figures from the ONS:

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OK back on topic.... what do we think will happen re:

a) Overnight anchoring in popular spots

b) Marina capacity for visitors (e.g no rafting, etc)

c) Harbourmaster patrols in boats e.g Yarmouth and Dart?

d) Go to the West Country or over to France?

e) How to avoid getting stuck in another lock down somewhere expensive?

Other issues around us having a very enjoyable holiday afloat this year?

a) Busier than normal

b) I can see rafting being stopped thus capacity will take a hit.

c) Not sure.

d) West country or CIs

e) I think it's a low risk but listen to the news and be flexible with plans.
 

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The only "insult" I threw around was to support the notion that the PM is a pathological liar and as a public figure does not deserve to have his blushes spared. You, however, said I was dim and have deficient mental acuity. Not being very consistent, are you?

QED

You are attempting to make a political point, I am commenting on you and others as individuals on the evidence that you have presented here . BTW you seem to have rather misjudged my politics but that is not particularly surprising, qv my earlier comments on your metal acuity.

This might be simple enough for you to take in (ie there are pictures):

 
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Ok keeping to declared topic:-

a/ Half the boats are not launching this year, and Tamar and Lynher are empty. There were only 3 boats out and all were moving from lift-in to mooring. So plenty of space in anchorages. There were no boats out in the Bristol Channel though F5 gusting F7 might have had something to do with it

b/ There seems no rule against rafting against empty boat or boat belonging to ones social bubble. There was no law that made marina close just the concerns of their insurers. Who knows what they will do? However having been charged £815 due to covid induced overstay on transit from a Bristol Channel Parish Wharf to Marina Lock gates I am sure they will try and empty our wallets. Avoid marinas in the UK

c/I expect harbour masters will patrol and tell us where they want us to moor. if not about we will do usual and find one that looks big enough but unused

d/West Country is easy but no cafes and pubs fully operational so less reason to row ashore. France is open but over 30 hours sailing away from Cornwall so not practical for anything less than a week or more.

e/Going abroad risks getting stuck. My son has the teeshirt. It cost us

Realistically we wont know any of the answers till we try. Maybe in 3 weeks we will get a feel for it
 

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Probably the OP put the post in the wrong forum. But as the PM decision is political and highly controversial then it is reasonable to respond politically.

The alternative is to accept every rule and regulation as god given, beyond dispute and question, and that we the populace have no rights to an opinion.

There is never a clear division between lounge and scuttlebutt, because all decisions re sailing are actually based on preferences prejudices, economics and the state of the human world (Unless you live alone on remote island, build boat with tools you have made and trees you have felled, and never plan to visit or pass any other inhabited land)

No not really.

What happens is contributors either leave the forums altogether, or
make certain contributors invisible who cause offence . Having to putt stops on contributors sets a negative vibe where interest in the forums tends to wane.

Most people recognise that we are all unique individuals with varying education, upbringing , life experiences etc and therefore have different
outlooks.

Perhaps you need a different kind of forum that meets your requirements better.
 
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