Minerva
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Looks good! Why don’t you go the whole Hogg and have a hot-tub installed on the foredeck too? Perhaps turn the forepeak into a sauna?
Pioneer 9
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Looks good! Why don’t you go the whole Hogg and have a hot-tub installed on the foredeck too? Perhaps turn the forepeak into a sauna?
Frogmogman
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Captain Blade
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I think some people are starting to exaggerate a bit on here. What I thought was a serious forum where I could find expert help and advice is turning into a joke. A Pool Table, a Hot Tub, a bath, somebody is having a joke!
When I've finished my boat will look something like in the attachment. I'm raising the main cabin ceiling and increasing the length of the cabin by about two feet into the cockpit. I'm also going to take out the aft storage locker and expand the cockpit that way.
When I've finished my boat will look something like in the attachment. I'm raising the main cabin ceiling and increasing the length of the cabin by about two feet into the cockpit. I'm also going to take out the aft storage locker and expand the cockpit that way.
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Captain Blade
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Tranona
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It is indeed a serious forum, but from time to time people appear on it with bonkers ideas.
SaltyC
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Regrettably I feel Tranona may have been a little harsh, perhaps it would be better in these woke times to say unrealistic expectations??
MisterBaxter
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Captain Blade, maybe you'll get more useful advice if you get more into the specifics. How are you going to build the extended cabin sides to raise the cabin roof? There would be a big problem to solve in terms of strength there.
And how will it work around the mast foot - is the mast deck-stepped or keel-stepped? Both would present some challenges.
And how will it work around the mast foot - is the mast deck-stepped or keel-stepped? Both would present some challenges.
Captain Blade
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Mister Baxter, you're a bit slow. I'm well ahead of you. Being suspended from this forum as enabled to make a start see attachments: Zeemuze
Captain Blade
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...and now I've got space for my shower and 6' 4'' headroom!
Captain Blade
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...anyway, it's goodbye from me and it's goodbye from him! That's all folks! Happy Sailing to you all!
Wansworth
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Are you flouncing,just like that?
penfold
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Notwithstanding the trolling; if you want an LM, buy an LM. Trying to turn a Pionier 9 into one isn't going to end well except for waste disposal contractors and materials suppliers.
doug748
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Looks like the Pioneer is back on Ebay. Two bidders are locked in a war but has only reached £2.20p so far. 3 days left.
Minerva
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A pioneer with a custom shower and spa installed, I’m sure will fetch a heady sum!
pmnfernando
Member
i wouldnt say it is beyond salvation but it is a MASSIVE project, both in time and money involved.
this boat is a classic design, said to be the first european GRP produced design. this detail alone makes it worthwhile. but this isnt for everyone. first it needs to appeal to you, second: to what standard do you want to refit it?, third: what kind of sailing will you be doing with it? (this will spill into the refit standard both in materials, equipment and how extensively you want to refit it, ie, money and time (again)
i am currently refitting a Pionier 9 as a go-anywhere boat, the interior is being completely redesigned for one person, 2 at a maximum and for brief periods of time (and they really need to be besties!)
yes there are "better" boats and more confortables one. but i live in Asia, near Hong Kong, and there arent much choices, plus boats here are crazy expensive. so this one belonged to a friend and i made it into my project
although i work as a rigger technician in the entertainment industry i am a trained Art Restorer, so i like old stuff and i look upon it as a testemony of Time, ie, Us humans in (whatever) said time period. Although feasible i wouldnt do any of the modifications aforementioned. more than anything it is wrecking the aesthetics of the boat, messing with mass distribution and consequentely altering the designed performance. but to each its own.
this boat is a classic design, said to be the first european GRP produced design. this detail alone makes it worthwhile. but this isnt for everyone. first it needs to appeal to you, second: to what standard do you want to refit it?, third: what kind of sailing will you be doing with it? (this will spill into the refit standard both in materials, equipment and how extensively you want to refit it, ie, money and time (again)
i am currently refitting a Pionier 9 as a go-anywhere boat, the interior is being completely redesigned for one person, 2 at a maximum and for brief periods of time (and they really need to be besties!)
yes there are "better" boats and more confortables one. but i live in Asia, near Hong Kong, and there arent much choices, plus boats here are crazy expensive. so this one belonged to a friend and i made it into my project
although i work as a rigger technician in the entertainment industry i am a trained Art Restorer, so i like old stuff and i look upon it as a testemony of Time, ie, Us humans in (whatever) said time period. Although feasible i wouldnt do any of the modifications aforementioned. more than anything it is wrecking the aesthetics of the boat, messing with mass distribution and consequentely altering the designed performance. but to each its own.
pmnfernando
Member
since there's been a bit of an interest in Pioniers 9 of late i leave here a few photos of the work done so far on mine
with the bunks removed but with the floor molding still attached (it was also removed)
empty V berth
peeling the gelcoat
primed
applying fairing compound
painted but before polishing (i actually didnt like the result of polishing but couldnt do without it as i had a good few runs)
new keel bolts and a bilge tank skin that i moulded to the hull
compartmentalizing the initial skin into smaller tanks
one of the individual tanks
keel before
keel after
anchor locker
with the bunks removed but with the floor molding still attached (it was also removed)
empty V berth
peeling the gelcoat
primed
applying fairing compound
painted but before polishing (i actually didnt like the result of polishing but couldnt do without it as i had a good few runs)
new keel bolts and a bilge tank skin that i moulded to the hull
compartmentalizing the initial skin into smaller tanks
one of the individual tanks
keel before
keel after
anchor locker
pmnfernando
Member
some V berth cabinetry and floor piece
stb V berth cabinetry
port bunk
stb bunk and upper cabinets rought fit
cockpit floor that i decided to lower in order to have standing room under the future bimini
after removing the cockpit floor
bill bligh
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Wow a good example of what can be done.
Ribtecer
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Fabulous ?
Keep us updated ?
Keep us updated ?
MisterBaxter
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Wow, that's what I would call a thorough refurb!
