julians
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We have suffered from the worn shaft caused by the seal problem on a dph drive, the cost to fix ( using new Volvo parts not repairing existing parts) was about 4k per drive. This was at about 400 hours.
Outdrives - major work
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Grubble
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You surely don't mean they change the bellows on the leg all included at £200?
Re pressure testing you can buy pressure testers on ebay, if you fancy doing it yourself.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outdrive...711053?hash=item3f8a07de0d:g:CgcAAMXQeKNTNgDW
Sailorsam101
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I've got 2 DP E's so can comment on this.
I get the seals and bellows done every two years or sooner if needed. Stb cone clutch went at 650 hours and port is on the way out at 700 hours...will last the rest of this year.
Overall i would expect to average about £500 per year on leg servicing....Volvo Paul did my stbd cone clutch and seals, oil etc and it was about £700 if i remember.
if you keep an eye on them and get them serviced at least every two years then they should last a long time.
Cone clutch does not just break..you can tell easily if it's on the way out.
I get the seals and bellows done every two years or sooner if needed. Stb cone clutch went at 650 hours and port is on the way out at 700 hours...will last the rest of this year.
Overall i would expect to average about £500 per year on leg servicing....Volvo Paul did my stbd cone clutch and seals, oil etc and it was about £700 if i remember.
if you keep an eye on them and get them serviced at least every two years then they should last a long time.
Cone clutch does not just break..you can tell easily if it's on the way out.
BruceK
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£4,579.25 including labour for parts to service both drives and major repair on one. Plus additional £779 labour and parts to refit and replace gear cables and alignment. Grand total £6430 with VAT. Want the receipts?
BruceK
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no, reread the post. You take the drives to them. They service and return to you with new bellows etc. You fit.
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Ouch, ouch, ouch.
My wallet has just fallen off the table and is trying to shuffle underneath the sofa
simonfraser
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guess you guys have seen this :
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/323162749144?chn=ps
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-Pe...ndrive-DP-A-DP-B-DP-C-DP-D-DP-E-/322388165626
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/323162749144?chn=ps
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-Pe...ndrive-DP-A-DP-B-DP-C-DP-D-DP-E-/322388165626
kashurst
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I was pondering (not seriously) a switch to out-drives, then read this thread.
I think I will stick with the shaft drive - might use more diesel, but it's really easy to replace it.
In the rare event a shaft drive gearbox went bang they look cheap compared to this.
I think I will stick with the shaft drive - might use more diesel, but it's really easy to replace it.
In the rare event a shaft drive gearbox went bang they look cheap compared to this.
Momac
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I did my own leg oil change this last time . To be honest it didn't save a fortune but I have become a bit more hands on and quite enjoyed it.. Also do my own engine service and saved money sourcing parts and oil at non marine prices .
Luckily the fishing line taken in by the props had not penetrated the seal.
The oil in one leg was slightly creamy so I flushed it out well with some gear oil.
A pressure test (with the leg empty of oil) showed no issue . With the correct equipment a pressure test is easy . Pump it up then go do something else and check after 20 minutes .
15year old outdrives - may need to be painted next time .
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Luckily the fishing line taken in by the props had not penetrated the seal.
The oil in one leg was slightly creamy so I flushed it out well with some gear oil.
A pressure test (with the leg empty of oil) showed no issue . With the correct equipment a pressure test is easy . Pump it up then go do something else and check after 20 minutes .
15year old outdrives - may need to be painted next time .
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Rob the boater
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You have to ask how can these drives be stripped, re shimmed etc the blasted and powder coated for the money ?
CLB
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I dunno, I know a fella with a Prestige who got a repair bill for circa £20k for his shaft drive gearboxes. May be less common, but not totally unknown.
Whitelighter
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Ouch, ouch, ouch.
My wallet has just fallen off the table and is trying to shuffle underneath the sofa
I do like the fact you can make even serious or mundane threads amusing...
simonfraser
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'With the correct equipment a pressure test is easy'
which is ?
which is ?
kashurst
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I find it very hard to justify outdrives, I envy the high speed, great handling, fuel efficiency.
for: super efficient - save on diesel, fast boats, sporty handling
against: religious servicing for reliability, expensive oils and parts every two years, fishing line damage, plus the real risk of something serious ruining your summer/bank balance
shaft drive
against: 50% more fuel use when going fast.
for: about as complicated as a horseshoe, sod all gearbox servicing, £60 cutlass bearing every 4 - 8 years, cheap oil every 5 years or so, a £6 anode yearly
if you trash a prop the cost is about the same either way, a new prop shaft for a 50 footer is £900, a recon gearbox is @ £2500 for a 40 footer.
How many threads are there on knackered outdrives? How many threads on stuffed shaft drive gearboxes? (about 3)
I wonder at what annual mileage (note not hours) is it worth having out-drives? Has anyone had both and can do the real maths based on fast cruising mileage?
for: super efficient - save on diesel, fast boats, sporty handling
against: religious servicing for reliability, expensive oils and parts every two years, fishing line damage, plus the real risk of something serious ruining your summer/bank balance
shaft drive
against: 50% more fuel use when going fast.
for: about as complicated as a horseshoe, sod all gearbox servicing, £60 cutlass bearing every 4 - 8 years, cheap oil every 5 years or so, a £6 anode yearly
if you trash a prop the cost is about the same either way, a new prop shaft for a 50 footer is £900, a recon gearbox is @ £2500 for a 40 footer.
How many threads are there on knackered outdrives? How many threads on stuffed shaft drive gearboxes? (about 3)
I wonder at what annual mileage (note not hours) is it worth having out-drives? Has anyone had both and can do the real maths based on fast cruising mileage?
petem
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I am aware of them. Reviews of their work are mixed see http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...-this-but-ivss-marine-anyone-had-issues/page1.
What I'm not sure of is what is included in the 'overhaul' price. I can't imagine that it includes any of the expensive components (e.g. shafts) if they are found to be defective.
Greg2
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BruceK
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well I don't feel too badly mauled as Julians confirmed it. He had 2 drives go at 400 hours ... double ouch.
BruceK
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I looked into that and realised despite the attractiveness of the offer when all is said and done I may not be better off for reasons mentioned above. My understanding is it's service and cosmetics. Existing wear is carried through unless of course it's broke. My drive was rebuilt. It is essentially new bar casing with guaranty
Momac
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It's a small hand pump with gauge and a hose that screws into the drain hole . I borrowed it from a friend - sorry no photo.
Not sure where to buy one ..... gearcase pressure tester .
julians
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This particular failure was on my dad's boat,so this time it didn't affect me directly . The year before though I had the prop shaft shear off my boat,dropping the rear most prop to the bottom of the sea, but this ended up being covered by insurance. End result was a fully rebuilt lower unit.
I have concluded that nothing on boats is cheap , doesn't matter if it's shaft drive,outdrive or sail. Maybe outboards are the exception to that rule?
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