capnsensible
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Was it a trunk call?
Orca attack map (Portugal/Spain/Gib)
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Star-Lord
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Only 10 months!
cherod
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just watched a recent vid from " Sea life station " ( nice elderly recently renovated Woods catamaran , just crossed the Atlantic ) on their interaction with orcas near Gib ,, entirely different approach from the sensationalist stuff that halcyon aided by the daily mail puts out ,,, well worth a watch.
Tradewinds
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A link would be helpful.
Wansworth
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On YouTube orcas chewed rudders,managed to make it to port in Giralter apparently Spanish ban on yachts passing through the area,sorry no ref
cherod
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youtube "sea life station " ,, most recent two or three
webcraft
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Orca 'played' with rudder, followed boat inshore into shallow water.
No different from the recent Halcyon incident in the same place, just a different style of narration.
- W
No different from the recent Halcyon incident in the same place, just a different style of narration.
- W
cherod
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not just " style " of narration ,,, it is an entirely different take on the situation all together , no mention of trying to sink the boat or " eyeing them for dinner " etc .
webcraft
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not just " style " of narration ,,, it is an entirely different take on the situation all together , no mention of trying to sink the boat or " eyeing them for dinner " etc .
The facts of what happened are exactly the same. The narrator specifically says she was scared does not want to ever experience it again.
I find it hard to see what your point is, except to belittle the problem secure in the knowledge that you are unlikely to ever experience it personally.
For many budget cruisers in the area, damaged rudders and the cost of a tow in could result in losing the boat. And it seems inevitable that it is only a matter of time until there is loss of life.
- W
cherod
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no one is arguing the facts , it is the way that they are portrayed that i was referring to .
and btw , i suspect that i had encountered whales before you were even born ( i hope that your other assumptions are similarly wrong ) )
cherod
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it is so " scarey " that apparently they are doing orca watch tours out of Tarifa at E60 a pop
webcraft
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Is your name Jonah then? And what has when or how often you have encountered whales got to do with it? This is a new behaviour, and one that seems to be spreading. OK, the Baileys were sunk by orcas, and possibly the Robinsons, but generally up until now an offshore encounter with whales was delightful and nothing to be scared of. That is no longer the case.
If your current cruising area is not the Iberian coaast then this is an academic issue. For many of us with boats in the area it is a very real issue, and is affecting peoples' plans. We have very experienced sailing friends who have decided to abandon their trip into the Med this year and have stopped at Cadiz, partly because they 'do not wish to encounter manic orcas'
Being understanding about it and going 'Ooh look aren't they magnificent 'will not save your rudder if you meet them.
- W
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webcraft
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If you had bothered researching the matter before posting you would know that the threat seems to be largely confined to sailing boats under 15m - which is reflected in the current Spanish exclusion zone rules. The boats operating these whale watching tours are very much bigger than this, and are not sailing boats.
However, you are obviously convinced that you are right and that sailors on the Iberian coast are a bunch of pathetic wimps making up sensationalist stories, a collection of fantasists with over-active imaginations who should in any case be grateful to sacrifice their rudders and perhaps their dreams to these 'magnificent creatures'
Why you are determined to make light of the issue is a bit of a mystery, but no doubt now you have the bit between your teeth as the orca's champion you will never drop it.
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nortada
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Map of exclusion area, which is between Cape St Vincent and Barbate; the site of a very large tuna net.
Orca attack map (Portugal/Spain/Gib)
cherod
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Obviously it you who is suffering from the over active imagination , your post is from your realm of fantasy
cherod
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Aparently this interaction , or what the sensationalists call attacks , took place 1 .5 miles off shore ,
Graham376
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I hope you don't stray too far in your boat if you are unable to plot positions better than that, see #1 and other reports, Only 1.5 from coast is nonsense.
cherod
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perhaps you have been out in the sun for too long or just have difficulty keeping up ,,, please see post #156 " this interaction " .
cherod
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i think perhaps that you are the only one having a mystery , as i never have made light of the situation , i merely drew to attention the different " takes " on the situation before you started your rant and assumptions about someone that you know nothing about .
webcraft
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... before you started your rant and assumptions about someone that you know nothing about .
Really?
We all judge each other by our posts on here.
I thought your comment about trip boats and orcas made it pretty clear what your attitude was.
I thought you meant that because 80ft ships aren't worried about orcas neither should sailors of yachts under 40ft.
I thought you meant you know better than the Spanish authorities.
If I was wrong I apologise, but perhaps you could explain exactly what you were thinking when you made post #151
... because I am afraid it sounded to me as though you were telling your fellow sailors to 'calm down' when these encounters are causing many of them alarm and money, while others are changing their cruising plans as a result.
Tell me, would you feel so sanguine if you were cruising the Atlantic Iberian coast right now?
- W
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