Older boats you could win a club event with

Just to complete this 'every boat ever built' thread, how about one of those Kontiki style reed built boats or a Mk 1 Noah's Ark?
 
Just to complete this 'every boat ever built' thread, how about one of those Kontiki style reed built boats or a Mk 1 Noah's Ark?

Those Kontiki style rafts are all very well downwind but as we know, the average inshore regatta race is 2/3 upwind. It's no laughing matter when large amounts of your reeds start detaching when bashing upwind.

The Ark on the other hand is a good shout. Very much ahead of it's time with large amounts of form stability. You also have the advantage of a large amount of movable ballast, providing you have sufficient control over your crew.
 
Much to my irritation last Sundays race with a fleet of 14 was won by a Moody 33 which looked to be using its original 70s sails. Next was a Moody 336 which is not a bad racing boat in a mixed fleet - I won a series with one of those. Then a First 31.7 with laminate sails - why someone would have laminate sails and not cough up the £70 for IRC I do not know. Then us. In all fairness we were the first non bandit home! ;-)

The reason was simple. The course round channel markers was mainly a beam reach because of N and NE winds. In 12 knots. had the course been windward / leeward round laid marks in 5 kn or in 25kn the result would have been very different.

To be a bit more serious, you can win a club event with any boat under NHC if you sail well and your handicap reflects your performance ie accumulated results.
 
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I won my class in the Clyde Cruising Club Tarbert Race in my Sadler 25 in the early 1990s. Possibly the only race, other than in my Laser, that I won!
There were about 15-20 boats drifting around off Port Bannatyne, in a flood tide... "Sadly" almost everybody else got carried over the start line before the start and took a while to get back on the correct side. We didn't.:encouragement:
 
Excellent boat ( The one with an "O" in the name) but did not want to wake Seajet up otherwise he would have started suggesting Carter 30's (dubious) & then go on to Sea Harriers etc & firing rockets at the enemy:ambivalence:

He already has a vehicle for that on the SIBS thread - only this time it features thoughts on whether an F16 pilot would be better at flying a 747 rather than vice versa!
 
Much to my irritation last Sundays race with a fleet of 14 was won by a Moody 33 which looked to be using its original 70s sails. Next was a Moody 336 which is not a bad racing boat in a mixed fleet - I won a series with one of those. Then a First 31.7 with laminate sails - why someone would have laminate sails and not cough up the £70 for IRC I do not know. Then us. In all fairness we were the first non bandit home! ;-)

The reason was simple. The course round channel markers was mainly a beam reach because of N and NE winds. In 12 knots. had the course been windward / leeward round laid marks in 5 kn or in 25kn the result would have been very different.

To be a bit more serious, you can win a club event with any boat under NHC if you sail well and your handicap reflects your performance ie accumulated results.

My Javelin30 looks fantastic, has superb underwater-line shape and a clean bottom - are you suggesting my poor performance in Gairloch Big Boat races is down to my sailing?.....................:(

Surely not?!;)
 
I used to sail on djin seng , she was best toledo built , as built for nick strattons own use , we cleaned up in her with nick , she had different layup , different keel mast etc to standard toledos , although class two at the time we regularily sailed amongst the class one boats , quickly catching up !

So true.

At the time I had the only 'big sister' to the Toledo - a David Thomas 3/4 tonner, & I remember Big Nige, having previously sorted then cleaned up with Odd Job, did the same with Djinn Seng. We were in the same class in offshore races & he often beat us home! :o

There was another one cleaning up on the South Coast, owned/skippered (IIRC) by Alex Thompson.

All the David Thomas 'chine' boats sailed well to their CHS/IRC ratings, as did their successors (Sonata, Impala, Sigma etc), but Djinn Seng was outstanding.
 
I was told she had a fabricated hollow keel that had been ballasted with shot lead. That would have put the weight down.

Don't know if it was true as I never looked to close.
 
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