Netherlands standing mast route - CEVNI required?

[shortjohnsilver]

Considering exploring the Netherlands canal waterways his year rather than traipsing west along the south coast again and it has been mentioned that I need to have passed the requirements of the CEVNI test. Is this the case?

 

[Refueler]

Its the reqt for all rivers / canals / waterways of Europe.

If you are RYA / ICC .... then its a simple Multi-Choice paper - at least it was when I did the test.

 

[CJ13]

According to the RYA if your boat is less than 15m no qualifications required.

 

[bobgarrett]

According to the RYA if your boat is less than 15m no qualifications required.

Correct but worth learning the rules/signs anyway.

 

[LiftyK]

You do not need the CEVNI qualification to use the mast-up route in the Netherlands. I took the training and test anyway as I thought it might have been useful. It wasn’t. If I was to start again I would definitely avoid learning CEVNI.

 

[DJE]

As above CEVNI not essential if under 15m. What I found extremely useful was the Waterkaarten App. It will plan routes based on your draft and air draft and also update you on any bridge or lock closures on your route.

 

[shortjohnsilver]

Excellent thanks all round. Nonetheless I’ll ensure I’m fully up to speed with the CEVNI requirements prior. Additionally remember to take my out of date flares off the boat and replace some of the fire extinguishers!

 

[st599]

The Netherlands is an early adopter of VDES which removes some VHF channels and makes them data channels.

Last year we found a few bridges that were now automated and responded to an ATIS call and that quite a few marinas are on Ch 31 which requires a Notice of Variation to get programmed on to a UK radio (it's restricted to RNLI use in the UK).

 

[Hacker]

Not sure if it will be helpful (or interest) but if you go onto YouTube and search for Meandering Molly you will find a load of videos of my old Crabber (Molly) being taken along the route by her current owner.

 

[DJE]

The Netherlands is an early adopter of VDES which removes some VHF channels and makes them data channels.

Last year we found a few bridges that were now automated and responded to an ATIS call and that quite a few marinas are on Ch 31 which requires a Notice of Variation to get programmed on to a UK radio (it's restricted to RNLI use in the UK).

We didn't have ATIS so avoided transmitting on vhf as much as possible. Our standard UK radio had all the channels that we were required to monitor. Many of the bridge waiting berths had intercoms connected to the operators and virtually all the marinas responded promptly on their published phone numbers.

And if you are really stuck there always seems to be Dutchman to ask.

 

[Plum]

quite a few marinas are on Ch 31 which requires a Notice of Variation to get programmed on to a UK radio (it's restricted to RNLI use in the UK).

Only partly true. ch31 as used in the Netherlands is a duplex, two frequencies, channel. The ch31 that the RNLI use as a private channel, uses just one of those two frequencies as a simplex channel and usually shown as ch31a

 

[st599]

We didn't have ATIS so avoided transmitting on vhf as much as possible. Our standard UK radio had all the channels that we were required to monitor. Many of the bridge waiting berths had intercoms connected to the operators and virtually all the marinas responded promptly on their published phone numbers.

And if you are really stuck there always seems to be Dutchman to ask.

When was that though, the rules only changed early last year.

 

[DJE]

When was that though, the rules only changed early last year.

June and July 2024.

 

[mrming]

Not sure if it will be helpful (or interest) but if you go onto YouTube and search for Meandering Molly you will find a load of videos of my old Crabber (Molly) being taken along the route by her current owner.

I’ve watched these. Good videos, and a great way to understand what the standing mast route is like. I hope to do it one day when I can more than 2 weeks off at once.

 

[Leslie frank]

Excellent thanks all round. Nonetheless I’ll ensure I’m fully up to speed with the CEVNI requirements prior. Additionally remember to take my out of date flares off the boat and replace some of the fire extinguishers!

And make sure you have receipts for all your red diesel. The authorities are very hot on it. (Or were 3 years ago when we were nearly prosecuted after filling up in Guernsey)

 

[st599]

June and July 2024.

We passed through in September and some of the bridges required ATIS to open automatically.

Most marinas were also on 31