marina fees

Monopoli (IT / Apulia) for 15 x 4.5 meters:

Storage on the hard: €150 per month / 6 month = €900
Lift-out + Lift-in: €840
Berth in water: €350 p.m.

Advantage: remains lively also in the winter. Bari/Brindisi airports are nextby and have cheap flights all-year around.
 
There is another on Aegina that is cheaper than those quoted, contact me if needing a better price.

You know the boat details. Give me your best price. I want 6 month ashore 1 Oct onwards, obviously has to include lift out, lift in, jet wash and cradle / props. Also is elec & water included. If not how much. Does the boatyard (I assume it's a boat yard) have shower and toilet facilities and can you undertake your own work and liveaboard.
 
You know the boat details. Give me your best price. I want 6 month ashore 1 Oct onwards, obviously has to include lift out, lift in, jet wash and cradle / props. Also is elec & water included. If not how much. Does the boatyard (I assume it's a boat yard) have shower and toilet facilities and can you undertake your own work and liveaboard.

Put all of your details and requirements in a PM and I will respond with a price .Jordan Kanonis`s travel lift will be used, but not stored there. This will be a special price better than what I think you will get direct ,hey ho lets see,

t
 
I'm not of course disbelieving any of these prices but I am sort of shocked (& disappointed) by how expensive the Med is..
I guess compared to the UK, they're not so bad.??

For me this is long way off (approximately 7 years) but we will take a sabbatical of 2 years, wife wants the Med, I want an Atlantic circuit. I guess naively I thought it'd be less money than reality actually is...
 
I'm not of course disbelieving any of these prices but I am sort of shocked (& disappointed) by how expensive the Med is..
I guess compared to the UK, they're not so bad.??

For me this is long way off (approximately 7 years) but we will take a sabbatical of 2 years, wife wants the Med, I want an Atlantic circuit. I guess naively I thought it'd be less money than reality actually is...

Simple supply and demand. In the western Med prices are higher because there is not an over supply of berths and access from N europe is easy. Plus it is more year round so people will pay more. Less anchorages as well so marina hopping more common. Easten Med, more seasonal and remote so more common as Duncan says to be able to spend the season without visiting the few marinas there are and only laying up for winter, which is in general cheaper than UK. So, overall costs for berthing are lower.
 
At Palmiye Marina in south west Turkey (the warm and beautiful part) it is €85 per sq metre p.a. including water and electric. This is a fully approved marina, beware of the cheap restaurant deals as you would likely be fined. I spoke to the manager of a marina in Gocek two years ago who proudly told me his marina was almost full and they charge €170 sq/m exc. water and electric. Marti Marina just along the way from here is €120 exc.

I know the sun is theoretically free, but that is probably what your paying for, and of course market forces and greed!
 
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This is a special price via me with my discount

Here the quotation from our Boat Yard.

Lift and launch € 400.=

6 Months hard stand @ € 130.= € 780.=

Power wash hull. € 50.=
Sub total. € 1.230.

VAT 23 %. € 280.=



Totals. € 1.513.=

Discount 6 Months. € 113.=

To be paid for 6 months. € 1.400.=


Liveaboards get their own dedicated power supply cable with an inserted electric meter for electricity consumption. One kilowatt/hour at cost price € 0,16 per KWh, included all taxes.

Liveaboards pay € 10.= per month for the use of toilets and showers. This is for 2 people per yacht.

No expenses extra for cradle or stilts.

Electricity and water for normal required maintenance work are included.

Owner can work on his own yacht.

Outside contractors may work on the yacht without any surcharge of the yard.

Male and female toilet/shower facilities are in a new ISObox unit and are clean.
I hope this suits you

Bob
 
Bob,

I was going to add your quote to those I've already posted but in your PM you said:

"Hello problem with my Pm .Please note I do not have a financial interest in the yard other than a discount from Takis
I think we had Lol from the other rally here last year so you can ask him if its okay

kind regards bob.
keep price to yourself as it a special discount I get."

Then you go and post on the forum the keep it to yourself special discount quote!!!

Words fail me.

This is a special price via me with my discount

Here the quotation from our Boat Yard.

Lift and launch € 400.=

6 Months hard stand @ € 130.= € 780.=

Power wash hull. € 50.=
Sub total. € 1.230.

VAT 23 %. € 280.=



Totals. € 1.513.=

Discount 6 Months. € 113.=

To be paid for 6 months. € 1.400.=


Liveaboards get their own dedicated power supply cable with an inserted electric meter for electricity consumption. One kilowatt/hour at cost price € 0,16 per KWh, included all taxes.

Liveaboards pay € 10.= per month for the use of toilets and showers. This is for 2 people per yacht.

No expenses extra for cradle or stilts.

Electricity and water for normal required maintenance work are included.

Owner can work on his own yacht.

Outside contractors may work on the yacht without any surcharge of the yard.

Male and female toilet/shower facilities are in a new ISObox unit and are clean.
I hope this suits you

Bob
 
Words shouldn't fail you. I tried a pm a week ago ,you did not respond ,so unsure if you had received it.
Anyway its now in the open ,,,, If it upsets you,you can pay the full price :) And I get the e113 discount:)offset against my yard bill..:):):)
I think its a fair price .SHOUT about it... If anyone needs a good price give me a pm and I will try my best, as said no financial interest in yard. I am only trying to help people get a good yard at a fair price.
 
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I'm not of course disbelieving any of these prices but I am sort of shocked (& disappointed) by how expensive the Med is..
I guess compared to the UK, they're not so bad.??

For me this is long way off (approximately 7 years) but we will take a sabbatical of 2 years, wife wants the Med, I want an Atlantic circuit. I guess naively I thought it'd be less money than reality actually is...
A lot depend on how long your season is , our mooring fee for last winter was 650 Euros for just under three months that inc water and ele in Lefkas , although from this year water and ele will be extra .
There a 30% discount on winter fees , the rumour that you get extra discount if you are a CA or RYA member is untrue on winter discount , they are only offered on full mooring fees .
For most cruisers we found that even before the 1st October they are queuing up to get into the Marina and boats don't move out till the last day of March which is fine but for us we like to stretch our season out . After all the reason we given up living on land is to go sailing , travel and explore not to sit in an Marina .
Last thing to add , I know one of two people have run lefkas Marina down on the forum , but I have to say it a nice town open all thoughtout the winter , you can get almost everything here , the small bunch of Liveaboard in the Marina are great people and very welcoming and the Marina staff are helpful and always checking on the boats , only down side is it a long way to Athen airpot .
 
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The only time we use marinas in the Med is during the winter. The rest of the time we anchor off or use town quays which either charge nothing or next to nothing. So the Med is cheap enough to make sense......

From conversations with several ranking PP I fear this might be about to change. All of them are unanimous about the PP giving up their role of collecting port dues - which role will be taken up by "others". Certainly in Crete (which usually appears to be ahead of ather areas in most reorganisations) that appears to be the case (I can only vouch for Heraklion, Rethymno and Chania).
I expect that dues will go up - inferred by many of my informants. Of course there are still lots of anchorages which will probably remain free.
 
From conversations with several ranking PP I fear this might be about to change. All of them are unanimous about the PP giving up their role of collecting port dues - which role will be taken up by "others". Certainly in Crete (which usually appears to be ahead of ather areas in most reorganisations) that appears to be the case (I can only vouch for Heraklion, Rethymno and Chania).
I expect that dues will go up - inferred by many of my informants. Of course there are still lots of anchorages which will probably remain free.

In Greece there was a change in the collection of port fees in July last year. The port police no longer collect port fees (except in certain cases explained below) and responsibility has passed to the local municipality. Each municipality has two choices; to collect the standard rate port fees themselves or to lease the port to a third party who will manage the port for them.

In the case where the municipality manage the port themselves they will usually employ a person to act as the port official and he/she will collect the standard port fees that are identical throughout Greece. He/she may also be able to arrange electricity and water if they are available (these will usually be charged extra). Some ports (Kapsali on Kithera is one) have retained the port police as the municipality's port official. Presumably this makes more sense in smaller ports with few visitors and an existing port police presence.

In the case where the municipality have leased the port to a third party it becomes a marina. Marinas can charge anything they like, they do not have to stick to the standard port fees. They are also not obliged to provide anything other than a wall to tie up to, so it's perfectly possible to find that all you have is a concrete wall, no water, no electricity, no toilets, no laid moorings and you're still being charged a big fee far above the standard port fees.

I suspect that each municipality will decide whether it can make more money managing the port themselves or taking the income from a lease, but I rather think we'll see more ports become marinas and thus a big increase in the fees we have to pay. It would be wise to ask when you first arrive at a new port in Greece how much it will cost for your yacht for one night. If you don't like the price you can always leave.
 
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