Flying Penguin
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People seem to forget that the leggy girl in the brochure doesn't actually come with the boat...
They don't??
Well that's £150k down the drain....
People seem to forget that the leggy girl in the brochure doesn't actually come with the boat...
I don't know whether they are still around, now that Martin Heard is sadly no longer with us. But there was Tregatreath Boat yard run by Martin who used to build the Heard 28 and 23
http://www.gaffersandluggers.co.uk/
The UK boat building industry could/should have been so much bigger and better than it is now, we had designers and skills but no vision. the vision must lie with Benneteau who in 1960 were just a small shed not unlike what we still find in Tichmash but then they also had a co-operative government who could see social boat ownership was a huge economic benefit along with the jobs production provides. The rest is history, too late to turn it back now. Why are UK governments so blinkered?
. But there was Tregatreath Boat yard run by Martin who used to build the Heard 28 and 23
http://www.gaffersandluggers.co.uk/
I'm very surprised to learn this as I have been doing precisely that for the past 41 years.we don't make aeroplanes
I'm very surprised to learn this as I have been doing precisely that for the past 41 years.
(AVRO, Hawker Siddeley Aviation, British Aerospace, BAE Systems, Airbus)
I'm very surprised to learn this as I have been doing precisely that for the past 41 years.
(AVRO, Hawker Siddeley Aviation, British Aerospace, BAE Systems, Airbus)
Hi all,
Just for fun I'm trying to work up a list of all sailing yacht builders based in the UK. Here's how far I've got so far:
Looking through the list, the British yacht industry doesn't seem as impoverished as I would have thought... We might not churn out production bathtubs like the French and Germans but there are some really gorgeous boats there...
That's my best effort - corrections/additions anyone?
But listen here, rich people. There's a big list of British boatyards producing top quality craft at the start of this thread. Don't you dare let me see you paying money to some dodgy Swede for a big premium bathtub full of bits of shiny metal when one of your fellow countrymen is working his nuts off producing something just as good but .
Have a watch of "Made in Britain" by Evan Davis to find out why. Our economy has moved on and now we concentrate on the higher end higher value manufacturing, as well as doing plenty of other non manufacturing based work. It's not actually a bad thing that we don't manufacture cheap mass production boats because there are still plenty of people here designing them and the parts that make them. A couple of great examples from the show were that we don't make aeroplanes but we do make the £250,000 helmets (that price is each!!!) for the eurofighter pilots. We don't make cheap cars but we do make the new maclaren supercar. We don't make much clothing, but some of our clothing manufacturers are thriving, and many of the people who used to sew are now managing whole factories overseas and over seeing the shipping process.
If all of that isn't enough, have you seen the cost of raw materials here? I couldn't buy the glass to make a Bavaria for the price of a Bavaria! We may have the craftsmen, but these days they are better off working in the design process or overseeing cheaper craftsmen elsewhere. Companies like Cornish Crabbers will thrive only because they make a niche product which attracts a premium, and they make it to a standard which deserves that premium.
I'm certain that BAE Systems do not build planes! The clue is in the title!
That program REALLY annoyed me. Just because some left-wing BBC nerk says something, it doesn't mean it's true! We certainly do build some aircraft - the Typhoon being a good example - but we mainly sell them to ourselves, as with the helmets. What would really make us money is selling abroad. We used to have an airliner industry (and nothing comes more high-tech than that) but are now left with building the wings for the 'Buses with the aircraft being assembled in France. We used to have a shipbuilding industry. Gone. Even the high tech renewables industry that is supposed to make us so much money has gone abroad - all these billion pound wind turbine projects are just pouring money in to someone else's coffers. Cars? Jag and Land Rover both foreign owned, nearly everything else... gone. That we 'don't need heavy industry' is a socialist myth. Bizarrely. Somehow they think that industry is a way of oppressing the working man! No, it's just a great way to get him a decent job. Your mate Bill down the pub - could he fine tune the computer on a McLaren race car? Hell no. Could he do a great job of riveting that new warship at BAE for the Brazilian navy? Hell yes. We CANNOT all make our money from high tech industry, or selling insurance, or baking bread. We need a diverse economy, and healthy industry should be a part of that. Can the Chinese dominate high tech industry within a decade? Already happening.
We can't all be employed by the government or living off the dole from taxes paid by the City (which does make us huge money). Yachts are just another great example of this: if we don't have a domestic industry, your hard earned money will go to the Germans. If we do, it feeds back in to our economy, and our companies will be big enough to start tackling international markets competitively, so we start to get other peoples money. We live in a country with the highest external debt per capita of ANY major country. We have to pay it back, and we will have to work bloody hard at it. Sod the picket line. We will have to pick up those rivet guns and get to work!
But hey, that's just my opinion. I've been wrong before.