Kismet?

[burgundyben]

Last week, while in Dartmouth, I had planned to have a look over a Nelson 34 project boat for sale, I had seen it advertised on a boat sales website, when I went back to check the advert and get a phone number to call, I noticed a link to the brokers own website, this showed the boat as under offer. Not to worry then.

On trundling up the Dart to Dittisham for a night, I happened to spot the boat in question, so we motored through the trots to have a look. Last night, I saw the boat on a low loader trundling down Hamble Lane.

On our way home, we stopped in Yarmouth, a Nelson 34 arrived at the yard to be hauled ashore, guess what? Its for sale.

Kismet? a Nelson 34 in my future?

 

[Firefly625]

Last week, while in Dartmouth, I had planned to have a look over a Nelson 34 project boat for sale, I had seen it advertised on a boat sales website, when I went back to check the advert and get a phone number to call, I noticed a link to the brokers own website, this showed the boat as under offer. Not to worry then.

On trundling up the Dart to Dittisham for a night, I happened to spot the boat in question, so we motored through the trots to have a look. Last night, I saw the boat on a low loader trundling down Hamble Lane.

On our way home, we stopped in Yarmouth, a Nelson 34 arrived at the yard to be hauled ashore, guess what? Its for sale.

Kismet? a Nelson 34 in my future?

right up your street Ben and perhaps fate...

 

[burgundyben]

right up your street Ben and perhaps fate...

Yes, we think so.

The one on the Dart needed a lot of work, was single shaft, which is my preference in terms of machinery, but not so good in layout terms. Was very unfinished inside and on offer at £15k.

The one in Yarmouth was twin shaft, good machinery, late Mermaid Ford Dovers with contra boxes. I had a good look round, smaller cabin than I expected, but much more cockpit, nice layout. Boat was ok-ish, lots of wood trim and flooring that needed to go back to bare wood and be varnished. I couldn't help but think if I delved deep that there would be a lot of work to do, I could see a rusty galv water tank and a lot of hoses and plumbing that looked pretty grim. I was surprised to learn its a year older than Playtime, 1966. Chap was asking £37k which I thought was a lot of dosh for a boat that I thought needed a lot of money/effort to make reliable and safe.

I can't help but think the best way into an old boat is to buy the cheapest wreck you can find and refit it to suit (this only works as I do the work myself, for someone not hands on then buying the best they could find would make more sense). I've spotted a couple of Nelson 34's in the Solent, both very down at heel...

I stood on the quay at Brixham and looked at a Nelson 40. I'm not sure I need or want something that big.

 

[Richard Shead]

Nice old tub....

http://www.superyachtworld.com/yachts/lurssen-kismet-comes-to-london-6169

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

You've got to go for it Ben. That boat obviously wants you to be it's next owner

 

[burgundyben]

You've got to go for it Ben. That boat obviously wants you to be it's next owner

The old boat market seems to want Playtime to still be my boat though.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

The old boat market seems to want Playtime to still be my boat though.

Yes but owning 2 boats would be twice the fun!

 

[burgundyben]

Yes but owning 2 boats would be twice the fun!

With the kind of boats I have is would be twice the psychiatrist's fees.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

With the kind of boats I have is would be twice the psychiatrist's fees.

So your psychiatrist can now afford a boat too! Is that not a good thing for the boating industry generally?

 

[benjenbav]

Yes, we think so.

The one on the Dart needed a lot of work, was single shaft, which is my preference in terms of machinery, but not so good in layout terms. Was very unfinished inside and on offer at £15k.

The one in Yarmouth was twin shaft, good machinery, late Mermaid Ford Dovers with contra boxes. I had a good look round, smaller cabin than I expected, but much more cockpit, nice layout. Boat was ok-ish, lots of wood trim and flooring that needed to go back to bare wood and be varnished. I couldn't help but think if I delved deep that there would be a lot of work to do, I could see a rusty galv water tank and a lot of hoses and plumbing that looked pretty grim. I was surprised to learn its a year older than Playtime, 1966. Chap was asking £37k which I thought was a lot of dosh for a boat that I thought needed a lot of money/effort to make reliable and safe.

I can't help but think the best way into an old boat is to buy the cheapest wreck you can find and refit it to suit (this only works as I do the work myself, for someone not hands on then buying the best they could find would make more sense). I've spotted a couple of Nelson 34's in the Solent, both very down at heel...

I stood on the quay at Brixham and looked at a Nelson 40. I'm not sure I need or want something that big.

Having seen what you have posted on here for a number of years and being aware of the care and attention to detail Playtime has had in the period of your custodianship I think that that is a lot of money for a Nelson 34-ish shape which you will probably rebuild from the keel up!

 

[Firefly625]

Ben, I would agree. An old boat honestly priced to reflect the load of work and cash that is required to get it up to scratch is the better buy. Best to find another nelson 34 for circa £15k than one for top market price that its most certainly hiding its gremlins...

 

[Firefly625]

http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=359355

not aft cockpit....but doesn't look a dishonest boat, current owner has bought another classic motorboat so is open to offers.... (no doubt needs to settle up his psychiatrist's fees)


or....

this, save on mooring cost, looks a nice fit out as well...http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=406684

edited bit - I like this 28, V berth & pilot berth & wheelhouse berth....all in 28ft. Looks spot on to me... (oven & shower..)

 

[burgundyben]

http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=359355

not aft cockpit....but doesn't look a dishonest boat, current owner has bought another classic motorboat so is open to offers.... (no doubt needs to settle up his psychiatrist's fees)


or....

this, save on mooring cost, looks a nice fit out as well...http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=406684

edited bit - I like this 28, V berth & pilot berth & wheelhouse berth....all in 28ft. Looks spot on to me... (oven & shower..)

The 34 has old Perkins - raw water cooled chargers and exhaust manifolds, no pistons available, its a repower project waiting to happen. Would need to be some serious shifting on price. Plus, I prefer the aft cockpit versions.

I like the Landguard very much, but feel it might not be big enough.

 

[Firefly625]

The 34 has old Perkins - raw water cooled chargers and exhaust manifolds, no pistons available, its a repower project waiting to happen. Would need to be some serious shifting on price. Plus, I prefer the aft cockpit versions.

I like the Landguard very much, but feel it might not be big enough.

some people are so hard to please...

 

[burgundyben]

Just spotted another one!

 

[Firefly625]

Just spotted another one!

Best fun is looking...

 

[Whitelighter]

http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=359355

not aft cockpit....but doesn't look a dishonest boat, current owner has bought another classic motorboat so is open to offers.... (no doubt needs to settle up his psychiatrist's fees)


or....

this, save on mooring cost, looks a nice fit out as well...http://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=406684

edited bit - I like this 28, V berth & pilot berth & wheelhouse berth....all in 28ft. Looks spot on to me... (oven & shower..)

I love how the describe dingy (new 2009) - they could just say 6 years old.
Also, what is the point of a 2009 mechanical survey? You could trash a pair of diesels in half that time

 

[burgundyben]

I love how the describe dingy (new 2009) - they could just say 6 years old.
Also, what is the point of a 2009 mechanical survey? You could trash a pair of diesels in half that time

Yes, I know, its hopeless, I read a listing for a boat earlier, said new engines in 2000, so 15 years old, I think they were hoping a buyer might think of 15 year old engines as a good thing, I suppose its better than the originals.

 

[James L]

well, if they didn't say they were new in 2000, you would have assumed they were original and that much nearer the end of their life.
I would certainly go for the boat with new engines in 2000, rather than 1980 ;-)

 

[prv]

I love how the describe dingy (new 2009) - they could just say 6 years old.
Also, what is the point of a 2009 mechanical survey? You could trash a pair of diesels in half that time

Time flies - in the seller's head these things are still new or very nearly so

Pete