Novice21
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How long would it take to sail from the roach to walton? Assuming we one day know what we're doing a bit, as opposed to now, when the answer is forever! I realise there are variables, but a rough idea?
just out of interest
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Phoenix of Hamble
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in what boat?
In your folkboat, probably about 7 hrs (ish) to Walton Headland, add another hour or so for Walton Backwaters.....
In your folkboat, probably about 7 hrs (ish) to Walton Headland, add another hour or so for Walton Backwaters.....
sailorman
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4 > 5 hrs wind strength / direction & tide dependent
Novice21
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Yes, good point. In our Folkboat.
Phoenix of Hamble
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I think 4hrs is pushing it in a folkboat Roger.... it must be knocking on for 30nm.....
sailorman
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i was still on n/w 7s /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
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Will add, that its quite an easy passage as East Coast passages go, and Walton Backwaters is well worth the effort!
FullCircle
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If you are thinking of doing the Pirate weekend, I would be quite happy to cruise in close company......
Novice21
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Thank you for the offer. The pirate weekend got me thinking but we can't make it this time unfortunately, I think we have friends coming for the weekend and my favourite daughter has a Saturday job now which tends to get in the way.
We used to have family hols in Walton and i'd love to be able to sail there some day. Maybe we'll be able to join in next year!
We used to have family hols in Walton and i'd love to be able to sail there some day. Maybe we'll be able to join in next year!
moondancer
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Perhaps a good first trip would be the Pyefleet weekend in company with the other RSA boats. It's a good first trip - probably about 5 hours ish in a folkboat and there would be other boats to go with. Can't remember when the date is for this year's one but it is on the RSA site. The other easy trip is the RSA trip to Fambridge which stays on the rivers and culminates in a dinner at the Ferryboat in Fambridge and a sail back the next morning.
AliM
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Leave at HW, or just before it. Aim to get to Pye End at (or a little after) LW. That way you get all the advantage of the tides, and have to average 4.5 or 5 kts, one or two of which is tide - so easy to achieve. Lovely trip - allow time to explore the backwaters while you are there.
If you are going to Walton for a weekend, though, look carefully at the tides for the return - plugging down the Wallet with wind and tide against you (or wind against tide in a strong SW) is not an experience to inflict on your family!
If you are going to Walton for a weekend, though, look carefully at the tides for the return - plugging down the Wallet with wind and tide against you (or wind against tide in a strong SW) is not an experience to inflict on your family!
Novice21
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Showed HWMBO my post/thread. Apparently I am not to even think about things which involve the sea this year, only rivers! Are we too scared? Or is this sensible caution??
I don't care where we go, I just want to go somewhere...
I don't care where we go, I just want to go somewhere...
moondancer
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I think it sensible to stay within what you are comfortable with. A trip to Fambridge would be ideal and it would mean nobody would get scared. It is probably 2 - 3 hours from Paglesham. You turn left at the end of the Roach and head up the Crouch past Burnham. There are moorings to pick up, with a water taxi, or a pontoon to crash, or moor, up to. You can get off the boat have a walk around and a pint in the pub. Then sail back. It is easier going up with the tide and coming back when the tide goes out.
It is easy and safe.
Have a few goes at that, use the chart and echo sounder to stay in deepish water, motor when you have too and everyone should have some fun.
No need to rush going out to sea. My youngest daughter has never bee out to sea and doesn't want to. Yet she enjoys sailing in the river where she feels she is within swimming distance of the shore.
If you are around Sunday Morning, say hello, no need to join in the race but you could follow the motley crew of boats up the Roach. I imagine we will turn around at some bouy in the Crouch and come straight back into the Roach.
It is easy and safe.
Have a few goes at that, use the chart and echo sounder to stay in deepish water, motor when you have too and everyone should have some fun.
No need to rush going out to sea. My youngest daughter has never bee out to sea and doesn't want to. Yet she enjoys sailing in the river where she feels she is within swimming distance of the shore.
If you are around Sunday Morning, say hello, no need to join in the race but you could follow the motley crew of boats up the Roach. I imagine we will turn around at some bouy in the Crouch and come straight back into the Roach.
Novice21
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Thanks for the suggestions, I'm sure you're right.
I am planning to be there on Sunday. Maestro isn't up to it (didn't get the traveller fixed properly yet), but John has invited me to 'crew' (hinder) him on his boat, very kindly, so I get to hopefully learn something, and more importantly meet some people. The weather is looking like it might be foul though!
I am planning to be there on Sunday. Maestro isn't up to it (didn't get the traveller fixed properly yet), but John has invited me to 'crew' (hinder) him on his boat, very kindly, so I get to hopefully learn something, and more importantly meet some people. The weather is looking like it might be foul though!
Novice21
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Dur! Just found some messages I missed on my over-excited thread at the weekend. So to clear up any confusion I have caused, I meant John L. More waffle in that other thread...
Dur... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Dur... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
nathanlee
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I think 4hrs is pushing it in a folkboat Roger.... it must be knocking on for 30nm.....
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Agreed. No chance. It took me three or four (somewhere between) to get from Pyefleet to Shotley, and I was going hell for leather (the best way, I think you'll find, is out of control).
Definitely doable in a long day sail though. Also, you get to meet wallet!
I think 4hrs is pushing it in a folkboat Roger.... it must be knocking on for 30nm.....
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Agreed. No chance. It took me three or four (somewhere between) to get from Pyefleet to Shotley, and I was going hell for leather (the best way, I think you'll find, is out of control).
Definitely doable in a long day sail though. Also, you get to meet wallet!
nathanlee
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Showed HWMBO my post/thread. Apparently I am not to even think about things which involve the sea this year, only rivers! Are we too scared? Or is this sensible caution??
I don't care where we go, I just want to go somewhere...
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I reckon, with limited experience admittedly, that if you go up and down the river to a point where you're happy going out when it's a bit blowy, then a quick hop across the ray sands is not a massive leap beyond that.
If you can put a reef in your sails, then I think you can safely navigate into the estuary on a settled period of weather.
If in doubt, maybe you could go in convoy with another, more experienced forumite? Them on their own boat, and you on yours?
Showed HWMBO my post/thread. Apparently I am not to even think about things which involve the sea this year, only rivers! Are we too scared? Or is this sensible caution??
I don't care where we go, I just want to go somewhere...
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I reckon, with limited experience admittedly, that if you go up and down the river to a point where you're happy going out when it's a bit blowy, then a quick hop across the ray sands is not a massive leap beyond that.
If you can put a reef in your sails, then I think you can safely navigate into the estuary on a settled period of weather.
If in doubt, maybe you could go in convoy with another, more experienced forumite? Them on their own boat, and you on yours?
AliM
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It is your call!
I'm not the one to ask - we sailed to Denmark 4 months after buying our first boat and learning to sail it!
Try heading out, with the tide, into the estuary (make sure you have looked closely at the chart though) and sail back in when the tide turns. You can make the excuse of going to see the seals (near Buxey No 1 and 2).
As you get more confident, you can go to see the windfarm. Having managed those as day-sails, try nipping across Raysand or the Spitway to Bradwell, Brightlingsea, Tollesbury or Pyefleet for the night (typically 5-6 hours). Once you've done that, Walton is not much further. Pick your weather and don't be worried if you decide to turn back early because - well for any reason really.
It is supposed to be fun - enjoy it.
I'm not the one to ask - we sailed to Denmark 4 months after buying our first boat and learning to sail it!
Try heading out, with the tide, into the estuary (make sure you have looked closely at the chart though) and sail back in when the tide turns. You can make the excuse of going to see the seals (near Buxey No 1 and 2).
As you get more confident, you can go to see the windfarm. Having managed those as day-sails, try nipping across Raysand or the Spitway to Bradwell, Brightlingsea, Tollesbury or Pyefleet for the night (typically 5-6 hours). Once you've done that, Walton is not much further. Pick your weather and don't be worried if you decide to turn back early because - well for any reason really.
It is supposed to be fun - enjoy it.
