alant
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Re: I suspect you\'d be disappointed
An interesting statement. What makes you say that?
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An interesting statement. What makes you say that?
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Cornishman
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Re: Yes and no
Sorry to sound so pedantic, JJ, but the RYA does not 'approve' schools. The only body to do that is the Home Office (Approved Schools!). Instead the RYA recognise their Training Centres.
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Sorry to sound so pedantic, JJ, but the RYA does not 'approve' schools. The only body to do that is the Home Office (Approved Schools!). Instead the RYA recognise their Training Centres.
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Cornishman
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Re: Direct Access m/cs
"290kg of steel moving at 170mph on a crowded motorway"
Didn't they teach you on the course that the motorway speed limit is 70 mph? Or was that a typo?
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"290kg of steel moving at 170mph on a crowded motorway"
Didn't they teach you on the course that the motorway speed limit is 70 mph? Or was that a typo?
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jamesjermain
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Re: Direct Access m/cs
Have you read any of the Biking mags? What the staff writers report from their (on road) bike tests and 'ride-outs' makes my hair stand on end.
You have to admire them though, when they test safety equipment they really do - usually by sliding down some B road over the Yorkshire Moors or hitting the tyre walls during a track day
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Have you read any of the Biking mags? What the staff writers report from their (on road) bike tests and 'ride-outs' makes my hair stand on end.
You have to admire them though, when they test safety equipment they really do - usually by sliding down some B road over the Yorkshire Moors or hitting the tyre walls during a track day
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hairbox
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Just passed my Yachtmaster yesterday, I feel great! But by know means do I feel that I know it all it,s just the begining it has made me realise how much more there is to learn and practise.
I know lots of experienced yachts people who have no qualifications they may be good sailors but just make silly mistakes like using bouys to cross TSS and show every light there yacht possess night sailing.
I think the Yachtmaster is a good means of measuring your ability and a milestone in your own personal development.
please don't slag it off as I put a lot of effort into passing!
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I know lots of experienced yachts people who have no qualifications they may be good sailors but just make silly mistakes like using bouys to cross TSS and show every light there yacht possess night sailing.
I think the Yachtmaster is a good means of measuring your ability and a milestone in your own personal development.
please don't slag it off as I put a lot of effort into passing!
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iangrant
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Well done Phil - congratulations..
Out of interest what did your exam include??
Ian
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Out of interest what did your exam include??
Ian
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StugeronSteve
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Congratulations...
>I know lots of experienced yachts people who have no qualifications they may be good sailors but just make silly mistakes like using bouys to cross TSS and show every light there yacht possess night sailing.<
Shouldn't need a YM prep course to correct these matters. Unless the boat wiring prevents, it must be quiet easy to leave both sets of lights on. Don't think I have ever done it, but you never know. (Not that I'm considering myself to be experienced.
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>I know lots of experienced yachts people who have no qualifications they may be good sailors but just make silly mistakes like using bouys to cross TSS and show every light there yacht possess night sailing.<
Shouldn't need a YM prep course to correct these matters. Unless the boat wiring prevents, it must be quiet easy to leave both sets of lights on. Don't think I have ever done it, but you never know. (Not that I'm considering myself to be experienced.
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hairbox
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My first exercise was boat handling in close quarters, then navigate into a narrow creek using back bearing creek unkown to me.
Man overboard recovery under sail and power pick up a mooring using the same.
plot course to steer, a whole colregs paper over 30 questions including sub questions, navigate blind to a mark.
Sail trim, crew management, passage planning, tidal hieghts which I prepard the night before for various ports that I thought would come up.
Tested on knowledge of chart markings depth contours lights dipping hieghts light phasess
Preparing tea food and drinks underway, more tea
Anchoring under sail leaving an anchorage under sail
Use of VHF
10 minite plot
3 point fix
meteorology
sail with due regard to other traffic
safety equipment
and more took 10 hours after a long chat I was told PASSED yippee
De-stress with a well earned pint
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Man overboard recovery under sail and power pick up a mooring using the same.
plot course to steer, a whole colregs paper over 30 questions including sub questions, navigate blind to a mark.
Sail trim, crew management, passage planning, tidal hieghts which I prepard the night before for various ports that I thought would come up.
Tested on knowledge of chart markings depth contours lights dipping hieghts light phasess
Preparing tea food and drinks underway, more tea
Anchoring under sail leaving an anchorage under sail
Use of VHF
10 minite plot
3 point fix
meteorology
sail with due regard to other traffic
safety equipment
and more took 10 hours after a long chat I was told PASSED yippee
De-stress with a well earned pint
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iangrant
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Reckon you got the full works!! Even more well done..
Ian
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Ian
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cloudnine
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Well done Ian! Can always rely on you for a good'un.
My story is this.
I have been sailing for around 3 years. I have religously followed RYA 1 & 2, DS Theory & Practical, VHF, Diesel, Sea Survival and recently CS/YM Theory.
In addition to that I have been very ably assisted and "trained" by 2 very competent forum YM's namely Ian himself and Edward (Talulah).
The whole experience has been fantastic and the amount learned phenomenol (the amount to be learned being infinite of course!)
I believe everything up to where I am is important and vitally necessary as steps along the way, but have no illusions that Offshore YM is just "another" step in the ladder of ability and qualification.
It must take years to gather all the knowledge, experience and confidence required to tackle the sea safely in all it's guises. It has to be more than just a personal achievement. It is disgraceful the insurers dismiss it as "common as muck, so what?".
The YM's that I know, and have had the privilege to sail with, are awesome in their ability to deal with anything (well so far anyway!!) the sea throws at them. Their skills and confidence have been hard won and for them to be considered unworthy of recognition as people who could bring a vessel home safely when the going gets rough is ridiculous.
I have no precise knowledge of the Insurance business but I suspect when confronted with an unqualified boat owner, these plonkers do not hesitate when loading the premium because of the increased risk.
The clever Insurer will offer sensible discounts for YM's and advertise widely the fact that they do, because if there are that many that they are as common as muck then that has to be a market worth going for. And the risk? What risk?
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My story is this.
I have been sailing for around 3 years. I have religously followed RYA 1 & 2, DS Theory & Practical, VHF, Diesel, Sea Survival and recently CS/YM Theory.
In addition to that I have been very ably assisted and "trained" by 2 very competent forum YM's namely Ian himself and Edward (Talulah).
The whole experience has been fantastic and the amount learned phenomenol (the amount to be learned being infinite of course!)
I believe everything up to where I am is important and vitally necessary as steps along the way, but have no illusions that Offshore YM is just "another" step in the ladder of ability and qualification.
It must take years to gather all the knowledge, experience and confidence required to tackle the sea safely in all it's guises. It has to be more than just a personal achievement. It is disgraceful the insurers dismiss it as "common as muck, so what?".
The YM's that I know, and have had the privilege to sail with, are awesome in their ability to deal with anything (well so far anyway!!) the sea throws at them. Their skills and confidence have been hard won and for them to be considered unworthy of recognition as people who could bring a vessel home safely when the going gets rough is ridiculous.
I have no precise knowledge of the Insurance business but I suspect when confronted with an unqualified boat owner, these plonkers do not hesitate when loading the premium because of the increased risk.
The clever Insurer will offer sensible discounts for YM's and advertise widely the fact that they do, because if there are that many that they are as common as muck then that has to be a market worth going for. And the risk? What risk?
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Peppermint
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Re: The problem is
that statistics show YM are no more safe than other yotties. Ask around at SIBS.
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that statistics show YM are no more safe than other yotties. Ask around at SIBS.
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powerskipper
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Congratulations it a feeling well deserved.
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John_Lana
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IMHO any training is better than no training /forums/images/icons/smile.gif Although I had done well over a hundred and fifty thousand miles at sea when I studied for my Class 4 (3,000 tons) licence, I found that there was a lot of stuff that I did not know that I did not know!!
On passage, we have had many a fright from smaller yachts when the person on watch seems to have no idea of the Colregs, and they often do the strangest things when they see a bigger vessel coming.
Even if you do not feel you need to do a yachtmaster course, then at least take the time to study and learn the Colregs - the life you save, as they say, may be your own!
John
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On passage, we have had many a fright from smaller yachts when the person on watch seems to have no idea of the Colregs, and they often do the strangest things when they see a bigger vessel coming.
Even if you do not feel you need to do a yachtmaster course, then at least take the time to study and learn the Colregs - the life you save, as they say, may be your own!
John
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