Is it me? or a re 2nd hand boats overpriced?

[jimi]

Re: Roughly speaking

Another factor often forgotten about a new boat is the time & trouble required to sort it out. Mine is now 15 months old and its taken about that long to get everything almost properly sorted out. Perhaps a nearly new boat can offer better value from that point of view than an absolutely brand new one?

Jim

 

[Vic]

That's a good news and a bad news isn't it ?

Victor

 

[Guest]

Re: another naughty idea

WHY 75 ...... make it 65 !!

 

[Guest]

Re: Roughly speaking

Having spent a 'cocktail' hour on a new Bavaria recently - I was feeling a little 'queazy' after inhaling the fumes of recently cured GRP etc. The Boat was actually commissioned and was a few weeks old .... had been aired profusely - sailed about etc. But the fumes were literally like being inside the 'lay-up' factory !

OK my boat at 1975 vintage you can still get the GRP 'whiff' sometimes, as in all GRP boats ... but this Bavaria was OTT !!

I know that it is not restricted to Bav's - it afflicts all new boats that are rushed off the moulds etc.

 

[JeremyF]

Re: Roughly speaking

I think this is a characteristic of all modern mass-production boats. I went onto a 18 month old Gibsea with 2000nm on the log, and it still smelled strongly.

My 9 month old Bav still has that GRP smell on opening the hatch, but soon goes. Id rather that smell than the damp oily smell of my old Moody.

On the subject of second hand, the best bargains are the nearly-new mass market ones; someone else pays the initial shot of depreciation, but you still get kit and electronics with plenty of life left in them.

Jeremy Flynn

 

[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Roughly speaking

I remember reading in PBO a coule of moths back that some of the new boats needed serious holes putting in the hull to replace some parts of engine/ drive (not sure which, told you i wasn't that practicle) The charter company stated that said part needed replacing fter 7 yrs so they advised owners to sell after 5.



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[Guest]

Re: Roughly speaking

I do not mean to offend .... makes a change !! But normally the damp / oily smell comes from lack of ventilation and airing out through winters etc. Condensation allowed to accumulate etc. Bunk cushions not lifted etc. etc.

A Westerly Centaur I look over for a client .... all looked fine, but there was a distinct hint of Glade air-freshener, but no plastic dispenser in sight ..... So the old hand slid down the side of the bunk cushion against the sides ...... yep came up smelly, wet and stained !! Lifting the cushion displayed a few years of mouldy smelly condensation stains / water.

Checking further into the 'bowels' as that is what it became !! it was not a good story ... negelected, but obviously used a lot ... funny that the seller was a Vicar !! and claimed every weekend / spare moments sailing .... must have no sense of smell !!

The boat I bought myself, similar type, but Sunrider - was older, no air-freshener needed, dry, well kept without being fussy .....and about 3K cheaper !!

 

[AndrewB]

Sick as a Parrot.

And what if he's already sold it to your mate?

 

[david_e]

Re: Don\'t touch them with a bargepole.

Hi Bill, other customers I have spoken to find them OK so there is a crumb of comfort in there, the info could have been 'lost in the post' (highly unlikely) or something else. I think that with new boat dealers in general are reluctant to cross borders, it tends to put you off the brand more than anything else. I am going to try and organise a test sail so will see how that goes.