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What would you do if your rudder fell off in a F8 mid channel?

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You would of course have given some thought to this eventuality beforehand becuase you read these forums, and would have a good idea on how to jury rig something, and might even have tried it beforehand ;)

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of coarse use the spi pole with the sole board that has "pre-drilled" holes in lashed together & shipped out board "Kon Tiki" style. then carry on up-wind as though nothing had happened.
easy init

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Funny question, many years ago got outbid on a Janeaux Fantasia 27, chap went over to France on first trip, rudder fell of mid channel, he should have an actual answer for you.

Brian

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I'd fire up Badfinger

Gotta get outta here
A man who feels the space begins to need the wall
Gotta be others near
Maybe someone fills the space behind the fault
Maybe not at all
Maybe not at all

Baby, a man gets wise
To running 'round in circles
He ain't got no choice
Only the fool survives
Running 'round in circles
Trying to make some noise


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Well my one floats so I would keep throwing crew overboard until one of them came back with it between his teeth.
Besides, its attached to the tiller, and it would have to be prised from my lifeless fingers before I would let that sort of investment float away.
Of course there is always the 2 6ft oars and the stern mounted rowlock for that sort of thing if it had the temerity to catastrohically fail due to my miserly maint routine.

Jim

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Or Bob Dylan "All Along the Watchtower"

"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief."


John

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I suspect the spinnie pole option has got to be tried .. and it depends what searoom and how long the F8 would last.

I'd put out a Pan Pan immediately, drop the main or scandalise it in case of a gybe and try dragging a bucket from the appropriate quarter with a bit of jib to try and keep on a broad reach . Put in the hatch boards and double clip on (to both high and low) ...


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Re: Funnily enough

thats exactly what happened to me some years ago(early 80's). Around 30-35 miles out of Cherbourg in an 8 decreasing 7 there was an exploratory Oil Rig which was just on our beam. I was a small yacht 22 foot Fox Terrier, with an outboard motor. She had so much weather helm you could not steer with any reliability under sail. We had to jury rig a rudder & motor the rest of the way. Unfortunately we could not carry enough fuel for the whole crossing but we just managed to scrape into Christchurch (home port) when the engine died. We had to walk the boat across the mudflats to the mooring at Mudeford.

Tales of my daring exploits gained me many Pints on that one.

Just part of my formative sailing experiences.

Martin

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Aren't you yachtmasters (somnumbulent or not) able to steer using the sails???;)

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Briefly discussed the scenario with the owner of a boat that recently lost its rudder in the middle of the Pacific during a race (stock sheared flush with the hull bottom). They sailed on to the race destination with little problem and no need of outside assistance by towing a drogue for steering - I think that would now be my first choice, well it would be if I had a drogue /forums/images/icons/blush.gif. Obviously, F8 would severely complicate any option.

Never tried the spinnaker pole and board option so could not comment first hand but everyone I have heard of who has tried it says it sounds great but doesn't work due to the forces involved (maybe ok on a little boat though, of course). The aft free board of our own boat is so high, and many would be the same, that the board end of the jury rig would have a massive mechanical advantage over the hanging onto end if using our spinnaker pole.

John

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I go along with the drogue to steer while balancing rig. Not having a drogue, try using the anchor as one. Should be able to manage a reach, even with tiny sail area. Wouldn't want to try it with a rolled genoa, rather have a proper storm jib.

Spi pole might be practical on a boat with walk thru transom, otherwise - as above, just not practical.

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We carry a plank, normally used as a fender board for use when laying alongside rough walls. The edge is drilled so that it can be tied on to the boarding ladder mountings. A dinghy oar lashed to the top and sufficient board projecting below the hull gives quite a serviceable rudder.

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