How accurate is this advice?

[ari]

I stumbled across this UK boating advice from a British marine insurance company, which I found interesting. It includes:


In order to own and sail a boat in the UK, there are a few qualifications that are needed. First and foremost, one must have a Pleasure Craft Operator Card (PCOC) in order to operate a vessel with an engine of 10hp or more.

All boats used for recreation on UK waters must be registered with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA). This is a legal requirement and there are severe penalties for failing to register your boat.

If your boat is over 7.5 metres long, you must obtain an International Certificate of Competence (ICC) or equivalent qualification before you can legally take charge of the vessel.

All boats must display their registration number on the hull in clearly visible letters and figures.

It is compulsory for all boats operating in UK waters to carry third party insurance.


This is the link: What You Need To Know About Owning And Sailing A Yacht In The UK

I have to say, this is all news to me. Whilst I do comply with some of them (I have insurance for example), I've apparently been boating illegally for the past 50 years!

Or it's utter nonsense, which is interesting, coming from a marine insurance company based in the UK.

 

[petem]

Sounds like some bullshit AI that someone has been too lazy to validate.

 

[PCUK]

Everything stated is complete nonsense.

 

[PaulRainbow]

100% nonsense. As Pete said, does sound very AI

 

[julians]

Clearly nonsense, probably ai generated. And not very confidence inspiring.

I had a quick google for pleasure craft operator card, and it appears to be a thing that's needed in Canada.

 

[Freebee]

hope their insurance is better than their BS advice -companies house lists admiralty marine as a dormant company !! and has been for a long time -strange

 

[PaulRainbow]

hope their insurance is better than their BS advice -companies house lists admiralty marine as a dormant company !! and has been for a long time -strange

Wrong company, it's Admiral Marine ADMIRAL MARINE LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

 

[Freebee]

my mistake I am cross eyed this morning sorry for the misinformation

 

[Refueler]

Clearly nonsense, probably ai generated. And not very confidence inspiring.

I had a quick google for pleasure craft operator card, and it appears to be a thing that's needed in Canada.

Actually required Operators Cards are quite widespread outside of UK ... we need it here in Latvia for craft over a certain size and/or engine power etc.

Plus the craft needs to be registered.

But as others have said - UK ?? Utter nonsense and long may it be so.

The wording though and the dimensions etc all relate to various other countries reqt's ... literally as if someone - as other say likely AI - has cut and pasted and put UK in the text.

 

[Plum]

I stumbled across this UK boating advice from a British marine insurance company, which I found interesting. It includes:


In order to own and sail a boat in the UK, there are a few qualifications that are needed. First and foremost, one must have a Pleasure Craft Operator Card (PCOC) in order to operate a vessel with an engine of 10hp or more.

All boats used for recreation on UK waters must be registered with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA). This is a legal requirement and there are severe penalties for failing to register your boat.

If your boat is over 7.5 metres long, you must obtain an International Certificate of Competence (ICC) or equivalent qualification before you can legally take charge of the vessel.

All boats must display their registration number on the hull in clearly visible letters and figures.

It is compulsory for all boats operating in UK waters to carry third party insurance.


This is the link: What You Need To Know About Owning And Sailing A Yacht In The UK

I have to say, this is all news to me. Whilst I do comply with some of them (I have insurance for example), I've apparently been boating illegally for the past 50 years!

Or it's utter nonsense, which is interesting, coming from a marine insurance company based in the UK.

Nonsense. I will definitely not insure with ADMIRAL MARINE LIMITED

 

[jbweston]

It gets AI a bad name.

AI + human intelligence = a good result. AI + human stupidity = nonsense.

 

[oldgit]

AI will suggest that the first use of GIGO was in 1957.
We have of course moved on since then...........

 

[ari]

hope their insurance is better than their BS advice

Exactly my reaction - if that counts as their advice, it's clearly a company worth giving a massive swerve!

 

[Alicatt]

As @Refueler says outside the UK most of the above is correct for somewhere.
For us in Belgium no licence is required if the boat is under 15m and has a maximum speed over the ground of less than 20km/h. After that it gets complicated, over 2.5m it has to be registered, unless it is a tender for a bigger boat that is registered, but then you can only use it for ship to shore not extended voyages on it's own. from 7.5m it has to have a ships VHF radio and the ship and operator must be licenced. Being able to sail at greater than 20km/h requires a Stuurbrevet of which there is a beperkt Stuurbrevet for limited sailing in inland waters and a Algemeen Stuurbrevet for inland andopen water and is graded like the RYA skippers courses. From next January a phased in adoption of AIS + VHF radio or Smartphone app will be required on all vessels greater than 3m in length, becoming compulsory in April 2026.

 

[ari]

As @Refueler says outside the UK most of the above is correct for somewhere.
For us in Belgium no licence is required if the boat is under 15m and has a maximum speed over the ground of less than 20km/h. After that it gets complicated, over 2.5m it has to be registered, unless it is a tender for a bigger boat that is registered, but then you can only use it for ship to shore not extended voyages on it's own. from 7.5m it has to have a ships VHF radio and the ship and operator must be licenced. Being able to sail at greater than 20km/h requires a Stuurbrevet of which there is a beperkt Stuurbrevet for limited sailing in inland waters and a Algemeen Stuurbrevet for inland andopen water and is graded like the RYA skippers courses. From next January a phased in adoption of AIS + VHF radio or Smartphone app will be required on all vessels greater than 3m in length, becoming compulsory in April 2026.

It would be fascinating to compare whether all of those rules make any material difference to incident rates.

 

[Rocksteadee]

No
No no
No and no
Only legal requirements in the UK
Abide by col regs
Solas: safety brief, a plan
And if using VHF a license.
If boat stored in an inland waterway. CEVNI Boat license. This is boat not skipper
A marina or local regs may require insurance, river license. Local bylaws
Not a definitive list as there may be morr

 

[Alicatt]

It would be fascinating to compare whether all of those rules make any material difference to incident rates.

We still get Richard Heads in their wake boats on the canals so...

 

[Admiral Marine Ltd]

I stumbled across this UK boating advice from a British marine insurance company, which I found interesting. It includes:


In order to own and sail a boat in the UK, there are a few qualifications that are needed. First and foremost, one must have a Pleasure Craft Operator Card (PCOC) in order to operate a vessel with an engine of 10hp or more.

All boats used for recreation on UK waters must be registered with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA). This is a legal requirement and there are severe penalties for failing to register your boat.

If your boat is over 7.5 metres long, you must obtain an International Certificate of Competence (ICC) or equivalent qualification before you can legally take charge of the vessel.

All boats must display their registration number on the hull in clearly visible letters and figures.

It is compulsory for all boats operating in UK waters to carry third party insurance.


This is the link: What You Need To Know About Owning And Sailing A Yacht In The UK

I have to say, this is all news to me. Whilst I do comply with some of them (I have insurance for example), I've apparently been boating illegally for the past 50 years!

Or it's utter nonsense, which is interesting, coming from a marine insurance company based in the UK.

It has been brought to our attention by a client of ours that the webpage in the above link contained inaccurate information. We occasionally use a third party marketing agency for posts of this nature and it has since been removed, with all remaining content to be reviewed.

We pride ourselves on our knowledge and service, so when this occurs, we do take it seriously. We have been providing worldwide insurance for sailors for 30 years, and many of our team are sailors themselves, so we understand why such errors are unacceptable.

We apologise for any confusion and mis-understanding and will be changing our internal processes to ensure this does not happen again.

 

[jbweston]

It has been brought to our attention by a client of ours that the webpage in the above link contained inaccurate information. We occasionally use a third party marketing agency for posts of this nature and it has since been removed, with all remaining content to be reviewed.

We pride ourselves on our knowledge and service, so when this occurs, we do take it seriously. We have been providing worldwide insurance for sailors for 30 years, and many of our team are sailors themselves, so we understand why such errors are unacceptable.

We apologise for any confusion and mis-understanding and will be changing our internal processes to ensure this does not happen again.

Thank you for this explanation.

Of course you are doing the right and responsible thing in checking the advice that appears on your website. I feel sorry for you to the extent that the offending page was created by others paid to do a professional job for you.

Perhaps you should give your marketing agency a good metaphorical kicking for producing lazy, inaccurate and misleading advice that instead of promoting your business gave the impression that you didn't know what you were talking about. And then charging you for something most likely generated in seconds by an AI robot at the touch of a button that they couldn't be bothered to check before publishing on your behalf.