From the liveaboard where nobody seems to live

[Aardee]

Suggest you read the specifics of what the OP was asking. While it is true that in the past many people have lived on board their boats, some of which are motor boats. However the OP wants to do that in the Solent where every single marina has a "no liveaboard policy"

The advice given was that choice of boat is secondary to finding somewhere that he can berth the boat and use it in the way he intends. He also needs to consider the practicalities of living on board during the winter in a boat that was never designed for such use.

So, not "tosh" at all - just recognising that in the last few years (particularly since Covid exposed marinas flouting their non residential status) has changed the liveaboard environment significantly.

Re; marina policy. I work for one of the major operators in one of their south coast marinas and while the policy may state no liveaboards, a blind eye is definitely turned on all our sites. As long as your boat doesn't start looking like a floating junk shop you'll be left alone.

 

[Shifty]

Posted in the OP’s linked thread that nobody read…

AFAIK there are no marinas in the Solent and around that allow permanent liveaboards. Maybe that’s wrong, happy to be corrected.

Definitely wrong, we have neighbours in East Cowes who live aboard a 40ft yacht.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

The fact that they do so doesn't mean it's permitted. Only that it's tolerated. Boatfolk terms require explicit separate agreement, which may of course be in place for your neighbours.

 

[Shifty]

The fact that they do so doesn't mean it's permitted. Only that it's tolerated. Boatfolk terms require explicit separate agreement, which may of course be in place for your neighbours.



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Correct, they do have an agreement in place.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

 

[Bouba]

The fact that they do so doesn't mean it's permitted. Only that it's tolerated. Boatfolk terms require explicit separate agreement, which may of course be in place for your neighbours.



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That agreement has loopholes I’m thinking....for example if you had another property that you can officially call home.
I also don’t like not being able to use their address....even if you don’t live on the boat...you still might want all your boat spares from Amazon delivered there

 

[Ian h]

How about looking at Bembridge

Resident Berthing

 

[jrudge]

How do live aboards deal with black water waste ? The odds of them motoring to a pump out station every 3/4/5 days seems remote.

The prime issue I believe in U.K. Marina is that their planning approval is for leisure use. If a boat then becomes a permanent residence it would then be liable for council tax.

I do know people who spend substantial time on their boat ( circa 8 months a year ) but even they won't stay on the boat in the med winter. The U.K. winter would be " interesting " in my view. Boats have nil insulation and whilst I don't doubt you can keep it warm by throwing enough energy at it it will be freezing within minutes of the heating going off.

I am in Antibes. Getting the boat warm when I was there for a few days at the end of January was a huge challenge. Keeping it that way with electric heating would have made a cruise liner a more economical alternative ( 38 euro cents per kw plus vat )

 

[Bouba]

How do live aboards deal with black water waste ? The odds of them motoring to a pump out station every 3/4/5 days seems remote.

The prime issue I believe in U.K. Marina is that their planning approval is for leisure use. If a boat then becomes a permanent residence it would then be liable for council tax.

I do know people who spend substantial time on their boat ( circa 8 months a year ) but even they won't stay on the boat in the med winter. The U.K. winter would be " interesting " in my view. Boats have nil insulation and whilst I don't doubt you can keep it warm by throwing enough energy at it it will be freezing within minutes of the heating going off.

I am in Antibes. Getting the boat warm when I was there for a few days at the end of January was a huge challenge. Keeping it that way with electric heating would have made a cruise liner a more economical alternative ( 38 euro cents per kw plus vat )

We have live aboards here and the answer is obvious ….if you are parked near them and you have a sea water toilet…every time you flush

 

[jrudge]

Which is a good reason to not allow them to be frank. In a locked marina it does not bear thinking about.

 

[billskip]

Which is a good reason to not allow them to be frank. In a locked marina it does not bear thinking about.

Just don't eat mullet....

 

[Neil1300r]

Which is a good reason to not allow them to be frank. In a locked marina it does not bear thinking about.

Its OK at the Marinas on the non tidal part of the Thames, the liveaboards pump less waste into the Thames than the water companies.

 

[Scubadoo]

How do live aboards deal with black water waste ? The odds of them motoring to a pump out station every 3/4/5 days seems remote.

The prime issue I believe in U.K. Marina is that their planning approval is for leisure use. If a boat then becomes a permanent residence it would then be liable for council tax.

I do know people who spend substantial time on their boat ( circa 8 months a year ) but even they won't stay on the boat in the med winter. The U.K. winter would be " interesting " in my view. Boats have nil insulation and whilst I don't doubt you can keep it warm by throwing enough energy at it it will be freezing within minutes of the heating going off.

I am in Antibes. Getting the boat warm when I was there for a few days at the end of January was a huge challenge. Keeping it that way with electric heating would have made a cruise liner a more economical alternative ( 38 euro cents per kw plus vat )

I think they would make use of the Marina Shower & Toilets facilities.

MDL have this in their agreement: "stays on board the Boat in excess of 14 nights aboard the Boat in any 30-day period is deemed to be residential use".

 

[Bouba]

I think they would make use of the Marina Shower & Toilets facilities.

MDL have this in their agreement: "stays on board the Boat in excess of 14 nights aboard the Boat in any 30-day period is deemed to be residential use".

14 nights isn’t even a vacation....that is extremely mean

 

[PaulRainbow]

I think they would make use of the Marina Shower & Toilets facilities.

MDL have this in their agreement: "stays on board the Boat in excess of 14 nights aboard the Boat in any 30-day period is deemed to be residential use".

That's just stupid.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Same in Premier. 10 nights.

 

[jrudge]

On that basis I am resident in Antibes quite regularly !