Fletcher Arrowbolt 21 - Project (70's/80's?)

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Introduction

Ok, as promised here begins what I hope will be an interesting and rewarding project.

For those who don't know, we acquired our first boat just over a year ago. A 1981 14' Fletcher ArrowFlyte which has proved great fun, but been a bit of a challenge on reliability and room - hence the desire for something a little bigger. I wanted another 'classic' style speedboat rather than a newer 'Sportscruiser' and as most of the use will be coastal and being a co-founder of the SWFBR, a bigger Fletcher was an obvious choice. During the early days we had the ArrowFlyte, I spent a lot of time researching the history of Fletcher and the various boats.

I looked around for a while at Arrowbolts, but either funds or distance (or both) were an obstacle. I much prefer the lines of the early inboard (GTS) variants and a small cuddy would be a major plus for the kids. Eventually a deal was reached on the one furthest away (thanks GordMac :)) - which I had spotted for sale almost a year ago! August Bank Holiday became an arduous 1100 mile, 26 hour road trip to collect her with a friend sharing the driving and providing encouragement!

Bigger boat = bigger engine = bigger fuel bill, so a 4-stroke seemed in order. Newer stuff was going to be an issue based on price vs budget, so older inboard seemed a good option and known quantity if a little thirsty.

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So here begins my first 'big' boat project - still a few bits to do on the little 'un, but she'll provide the sanity check and the boating relief we'll no doubt need over the coming months...

Before I started out, I knew that floor and trailer were issues, plus she has been laid up uncovered for around 3 years but was described as complete but tired. A pretty accurate description taken on trust. She has a Volvo Penta 5L V8 - which I currently believe to be the AQ231A, coupled to a Mercruiser Alpha 1 sterndrive. Seating is complete and largely intact, she has a small cuddy with hatch (non-window type) and a great sundeck. Most of the boat is complete and to my surprise, the camper cover is included (more about that later). I'm anticipating a spend of around 3-4K over the next 2-3 years as and when I can afford - to include trailer (repair or replace second hand perhaps), electronics and basic equipment. I'm hoping to have her on the water (not completed) by SWFBR 2012 (in June!) - A little optimistic maybe, but a date to aim for nonetheless.

I'm very much at the prodding around, 'how bad is it' phase currently and I'm not in a hurry, which is probably a good thing as funds will no doubt delay progress, but I want to do a good job and preserve a bit of history, so it'll be done when it's done!

The back-end of the boat seems to have fared better than the central section, perhaps because that big sundeck served as a hood, or perhaps simply because the air space and, originally engine heat, kept her dry. The bilge in centre section is full of crud, which is holding moisture, so cleaning this and generally drying the structure is the current priority. The Cuddy is perhaps a concern as it's all fibre-glassed floor - so will be difficult to establish what's below. I don't want to rip it out for the sake of it because it is molded with storage areas etc. It could be ok because unlike the later 19' and 21' Sportscruisers, the hatch is overlapping and seals well. There is also no anchor locker, so apart from the join between top/bottom molds (covered by rubbing strip), and any water running forward under the floors, there is nowhere for water to get in there. It doesn't smell damp in there and there's no signs of water. Ironically, the older design may have limited the water damage to the central cockpit area - or is that wishful thinking on my part?

I established that the central cockpit floor crunched and moved underfoot, as did that by the helm. This is going to need ripping out and replacing - probably stringers too. I've already removed the glued down rubber floor and determined the crunching was the top ply laminate - now mostly removed. The floor appears to be of a hardwood, blockboard construction where strips of hardwoods are glued together (approx 15mm profiles) and sandwiched between two thin layers of plywood. The plywood and rubber floor have trapped moisture and thus the ply is rotten and brittle - pulled up with fingers. Surprisingly the block-board section, although saturated with water is not rotted! It will however need to come up as it has sagged and distorted - plus the layer of ply below is rotten. After 24 hours exposure to the air, it's already drying out.

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The floor of the battery bay seems solid and could be stood on, but the other side (starboard) contains a hole and is clearly rotten. The ply is very thin, so may replace both sides anyway. What can be pulled out with fingers has been in order to expedite drying of the foam beneath.

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The bulkheads between the engine and fuel tank (under rear seat) and the fuel tank and cockpit are also rotten - particularly at the base. They were never glassed over, but new ones will be.

Engine bay floor/stringers seem solid, but won't really know until cockpit is stripped, fuel tank and bulkheads removed etc. Core samples from here will be taken along with the transom, and if solid, refilled with resin.

The camper cover had shrunk and the 4 sections of frame are clearly missing some bits and appear to need attaching somewhere - not obvious! In order to prevent water/leaf ingress and aid drying, I have fitted the cover (by soaking and stretching parts) and initially 'propped up' using the rear seat as a tent pole! I've now used part of the intended frame however and I'm starting to determine what elements are missing/lost. It is however a major bonus to have even a quite tired cover as it is complete and will suffice as a template for a new one if needed.

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Gauges are all present except for tacho, but from attempts before leaving Scotland, we know that the hydraulic pump and 'up' relay don't work. The propeller is quite pitted with a few dings, so will get that off and sent for refurb as this isn't something I'll be able to do. The sterndrive was a replacement and a new gimbal bearing and gear selection cable have been fitted. The engine was claimed to be rebuilt when the previous owner purchased, but as he said, he saw no evidence of that, although it does look fairly 'clean'. The oil in the rocker casing and dipstick does show signs of partial emulsification, but too early to say if this indicates a problem. Having sat outside through the last couple of winters - and in the Highlands - it could just be from condensation/freezing etc. New oil, plugs, belts etc will be done before starting, so all will become apparent no doubt! If a partial rebuild is needed then it will be done, but will obviously delay the completion. I'm mechanically minded and have changed head gaskets on Land Rover V8's, so a rebuild would be partly DIY and partly machine shop or exchange, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it!

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General exterior condition isn't as bad as I thought it might be but it has been resprayed at some stage a long while ago. The supports for the stainless rail around the sundeck have blistered beneath the black coating so I may need to get some made from stainless if they are not 'standard' bits. Some of the gel coat has flaked away and some crazed, but these sections are quite small and manageable.

I've not connected a battery yet to check the wiring, bilge pump, blowers, horn, lights etc but will probably rewire anyway due to age.

The fuel tank is stainless and this plus fuel lines appear in good order visually as does steering (power steering).

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Trailer is marginal as to if it's repairable. Although quite rusted, it is mostly solid apart from the nearside central spine which has rotted away on the rear 24-30" (holes!) and the leaf springs are very rusted. It's a bunk with some rollers. Hubs are an unknown, but bits were rattling inside on the journey home! :shock: The wheel bearings seem good (no heat in 550 miles non-stop!) and only one has a little amount of play. Two were replaced recently and the other two greased I'm told. I purchased two new wheels and tyres to collect it, but the other two could do with replacing soon unless I replace the entire trailer with a new one!

I've not yet found an identification plate/number so as yet unsure of year still, but believe her to be late 70's or early 80's.

Continued...
 
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More pics - I've re-sized these to sensible proportions... :)

General hull state - a selection to show various bits - good and bad plus many original fitments etc.

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Swim platform - surprisingly more solid than it appears. Not sure if this was original or not, need to find more pictures of Arrowbolts of this era perhaps?
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This is probably the worst area of gel-coat (or lack of...)
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Shame cover hadn't been on the last few years, but it was at least preserved dry in the cuddy - needed some soaking/stretching to fit! Only a couple of minor tears found.
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Some cockpit pictures...
It's not every boat has a lawn to mow...
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Original floor before rubber mat and ply laminate removed - some give and crunchy!
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Rear seat back not fixed and tends to lean forwards - coverings in pretty good nick for age, but suspect bases etc will be rotten and thus new seats will be almost certain.
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Console is mostly complete with just the tacho missing...
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Nice, low mileage example guv, one careful lady owner...
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Under the hood...

No fire suppression, so that will be a must and in in budget anyway - ample space to install.
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Surprised to find bilge blower given age, unsure of condition as yet.
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Bilge pump isn't going to pump what's down there, perhaps a macerater?
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Battery bay seems solid and clear of rot - but nothing taken for granted. Will fit a couple of big leisure/starters in there and wire a split charge. (Apologies for fuzzy pic - must have had one too many coffees... )
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The cuddy area is clean and dry...

Headroom is 'limited' as illustrated by my son!
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Floor is fibre-glass and doesn't appear to be wood beneath, but there must presumably be stringers supporting? I'm hoping not to have to cut this out, but that may be optimistic and if necessary it will be done!
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That's about it for now, a busy couple of weeks, so apart from the odd bit of cleaning up, removal of seats, tank and floor, not much will happen for a while. It will give the boat a chance to dry out and depending on weather, I may put a tarp over and put a dehumidifier in there once floor is up. :D
 
;)Con grats on your new purchase, what a great project, what a classic boat that deserves bring back from neglect.

We had to collect our first boat a fletcher arrowstreak 17ft from kendel in cumbria had to stay over night and found on viewing, the windscreen was smashed up and the owner had not told us, ******

You have your work cut out but winters on its way and plenty of time, very sure once back to her former glory a head turner she will be:cool::cool:, if she is a she and not a he????

will be watching this project for sure.
 
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Interesting the photo of the trailer.

It looks almost identical construction to mine with the two parallel spine members and even down to the detail of the keel rollers and how they are fitted between the two spine members.

Given my boat's in Scotland, and yours came from here, it wouldn't surprise me if they were made by the same people, but mine has no plates whatsoever so I have no idea when it was made or by who.

But repairing and refurbishing the trailer you have is probably the cheapest option, if you can use a welder (I can but I'm not very good at it)
 
nice...
you will find you will have to replace nearly every thing.
i found that out when i rebuilt a 1970's winner wildcat.
at the time it was cheaper/better quality to get your bit's and bob's from the u.s.
but the exchange rate was better back then.
if you are going to respray the hull?not a big job really,i would recommend jotun's 2pk.
look's like alot of work but very rewarding when done.

you'd better get crack on....!
 
Good luck with her RB , i used to dream off owning an Arrowbolt when i had my old Arrowflyte . The end result will keep you going in those dark winter months :) .
 
Interesting the photo of the trailer.

It looks almost identical construction to mine with the two parallel spine members and even down to the detail of the keel rollers and how they are fitted between the two spine members.

Given my boat's in Scotland, and yours came from here, it wouldn't surprise me if they were made by the same people, but mine has no plates whatsoever so I have no idea when it was made or by who.

But repairing and refurbishing the trailer you have is probably the cheapest option, if you can use a welder (I can but I'm not very good at it)

Hi Dave, I think mine might be too far gone to repair cost-effectively. Unfortunately, it's not galvansied and the spines are open and thus appear to have rotted from inside out. Caught a lot earlier, could have been wax-oiled inside but a bit late now. I may try and get new sections made and galvanised/dipped, but will depend on cost. I like the leaf-spring arrangement as it has an articulation in the centre that compensates for tow-height and distributes the load well between the axles, but not sure if new leafs will be available? I'll clean it up and then seek some prices from local trailer centres for repairs/parts. Regarding the welding, I have done some self-taught metal arc welding a long while ago, but although I brought a mig some years back, it's never been used :o I'm hoping to do an evening course on welding and then I might assess if I'm competent enough for DIY job! :rolleyes:

Trailer Pictures - apologies for quality, light isn't that good as enclosed on all sides.

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The sections joining in at about 30 degrees are not welded to the spine, but to a plate beneath which the U bolts clamp to the spines...

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These next three show the worst of the corrosion - yes, the dark bits ARE holes!!! (I poked fingers through :eek:)

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I'll look to build a timber cradle for the boat out of 4x2 and then pull the trailer out from underneath. It's currently jacked up on axle stands and blocks so that the springs and wheels are unloaded. I'll probably start with the trailer anyway as that's a significant expense if replacing and will determine a few other decisions. It will also rot further in the elements if unattended, whereas the boat won't (now covered and drying out quickly.)


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I'll probably build a timber frame around the boat and fix a tarp over so that I can both keep it dry and work through the winter as conditions and time permit...
 
nice...
you will find you will have to replace nearly every thing.
i found that out when i rebuilt a 1970's winner wildcat.
at the time it was cheaper/better quality to get your bit's and bob's from the u.s.
but the exchange rate was better back then.
if you are going to respray the hull?not a big job really,i would recommend jotun's 2pk.
look's like alot of work but very rewarding when done.

you'd better get crack on....!

Hi Moonraker,

I'll aim to clean the hull as is, and get a layer or two of wax on before the winter to prevent any deterioration and then probably leave until ready to respray or gel-coat. I'd like to gel-coat it simply because that would be how it was originally done, but can see the advantages and relative ease of spraying so will probably delay that decision until I've done the dints and scrapes on the ArrowFlyte as that will give me an idea what I'm letting myself in for! :D

Agree on the parts, I've sourced quite a lot from the US - shameful that they can ship 4000 miles and still be cheaper than UK suppliers. Someone's making a packet somewhere! :mad:
 
;)Con grats on your new purchase, what a great project, what a classic boat that deserves bring back from neglect.

We had to collect our first boat a fletcher arrowstreak 17ft from kendel in cumbria had to stay over night and found on viewing, the windscreen was smashed up and the owner had not told us, ******

You have your work cut out but winters on its way and plenty of time, very sure once back to her former glory a head turner she will be:cool::cool:, if she is a she and not a he????

will be watching this project for sure.

Hi Mark, I see from another post that you did do Torquay yesterday - presumably without the boat? If you are sharp-eyed, you will spot the boat on your way home through Kingskerswell - we are on the left 100yrds past the Texaco garage. If the Land Rover's there, feel free to came and have a look and a coffee :)

The vendor of the Arrowbolt was absolutely fair in his description and also advised on all that we needed to take with us to collect - like trailer wheels and trailerboard/extension etc. We also reached a deal much less than his original asking price, so no complaint whatsoever. I just hope I can do the project justice!
 
Hi rbcoomber.
yeh did go minus the boat:(:(:( thing is due to weather change torquay harbour were letting people in to use slip way:mad::mad:, but no available parking for trailers were permitied, not even dadyhole plane, that was locked up, have to admit the quay was full to breaking point with trailers and crane, just realy hope i get her in next weekend??

Project looking good, shame you cant rig up a small coverd area to keep the both of you dry and snuggled up:p:p.:p, next time we are passing minus boat will come and say hi if your in.

mark
 
Looks like you will be doing a proper job of fixing her, glad she went to a good home.
The engine was always keen to start as long as there was plenty voltage, put a wee bit of petrol down the carb and she started easily. oil pressure and temp gauge worked. Bilge blower and bilge pump were working but then so was the trim pump.
Good luck!
 
Hi Gordon,

I'll do my best! :D

I consider myself lucky to have the opportunity and as I'm pretty resourceful, I can't see anything that can't be fixed. The bits that don't work like hydraulic pump probably won't take much - I'll remove, strip, clean and overhaul one by one. The boat is complete and there's plenty of space to work so in that sense, I've got a better starting point than I would have with many newer boats!

I'll change oil and plugs etc before I fire her up, but will hopefully do this in the next couple of weeks. :)

If you find yourself down this way anytime, I'll gladly take you for a spin in her when done. You'll be able to monitor progress here anyway.

Thanks once again,

Robin
 
General hull state - a selection to show various bits - good and bad plus many original fitments etc.

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Congratulations on having a happy day.

You will really enjoy it when you have finished restoring it.

BTW I think that my bow is (was) in a worse condition than yours.
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A 1/2" mooring line broke and the chap next door had a stainless steel prop on his trimmed up out board (NO! it was not running at the time.) :)
 
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Congratulations on having a happy day.

You will really enjoy it when you have finished restoring it.

BTW I think that my bow is (was) in a worse condition than yours.
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A 1/2" mooring line broke and the chap next door had a stainless steel prop on his trimmed up out board (NO! it was not running at the time.) :)

Crikey! I thought the sharks had acquired a taste for GRP... :eek: I hope he's footing the the bill, you must be gutted? :(
 
Sorry for lack of updates - new job and various time pressures have delayed proper start on this, but here's where I'm up to:-

I fitted the canvas 'camper cover' but with no fixings for the frame and an obvious absence of one or two bits, had to botch with some cable ties etc for time being. Ultimately a new cover is very likely to be needed, but at least the old one now fits (having been well watered by the elements) and can be used as a template. Although she started to dry out, it's clear that canvas is no longer water-proof and a few large puddles reformed inside so a tarpaulin has now been put over entire boat with airflow maintained as much a practical to prevent mildew etc.

I'm aiming to aid drying by running up the motor and winterising at the same time. :rolleyes: I've still not be able to identify the V8 Penta for certain, but as of last week sourced a syphon, oil, filter and fogging oil. I hung upside-down again at the weekend and removed the four port-side plugs ready for some derv/wd40 and then a hand crank to ensure free turn over. Unfortunately couldn't turn a ring spanner on starboard plugs (no room) so had to abandon pending a 16mm plug spanner which I now have. Hopefully will find time this week to remove remaining plugs and then ensure free rotation. Next I'll check compressions and then, all being well, fire her up and run to check temperatures, water circulation etc and change the oil.

Whilst doing the latest bat impersonation, I did check for id plate and there is definitely nothing on the port side. I wasn't able to get my head right down on starboard side (no comments please :p), but have a plan to facilitate that now... I'm still working on the assumption of a 70's/80's 5.0L - so 500/501 or AQ231/211 or similar seem most likely candidates. carb appears to be a Rochester 4 barrel.

Not much other progress yet, but have sourced a tacho to fill missing item in dash and also concluded that main floor, bulkheads between cockpit/fuel tank and fuel tank/engine bay plus the sides of engine bay will all need to be replaced. Originals are not glassed in, but I will both treat and glass in the new ones - hopefully before year-end. :o

Will get some pictures for next update.
 
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