Does the iPad 2 3g have GPS standalone. YES or NO?

[Jamesuk]

Yes or no?

We are talking mid Atlantic using alongside Raymarine/Furuno equipment with Navionics.

Provide evidence of your YES answer if possible.

Im saying NO

A mobile (CellPhone/SmartPhone) device featured with "A-GPS" only (no additional "S-GPS"/Standalone-GPS feature to be selected as alternative, or there's no "Hybrid GPS" as a complete A-GPS/S-GPS hybrid features in one device) can work ONLY when there's internet link/connection to ISP/CNP - it is USELESS on areas with no coverage of internet link (or no BTS towers nearby, in the case on CNP service coverage area) to connect to those A-GPS servers (that usually provided by CNPs);

 

[pvb]

I'd say yes. The 3G version has a GPS receiver. Without cellphone connection, it may take a while to acquire a position. The easy way to check is to take the SIM card out and see how long it takes to find its location.

 

[Colvic Watson]

pvb is almost right. It has a full total complete and utter independent stand alone GPS chip. Every single iPad with a sim slot has one. It does not need and hardly benefits from the assisted features, try turning off cellular data and wifi and it still acquires location almost immediately even after being off for a long time.

 

[Vara]

Yes.

see many threads passim.

 

[West Coast]

Yes or no?

We are talking mid Atlantic using alongside Raymarine/Furuno equipment with Navionics.

Provide evidence of your YES answer if possible.

Im saying NO

A mobile (CellPhone/SmartPhone) device featured with "A-GPS" only (no additional "S-GPS"/Standalone-GPS feature to be selected as alternative, or there's no "Hybrid GPS" as a complete A-GPS/S-GPS hybrid features in one device) can work ONLY when there's internet link/connection to ISP/CNP - it is USELESS on areas with no coverage of internet link (or no BTS towers nearby, in the case on CNP service coverage area) to connect to those A-GPS servers (that usually provided by CNPs);

The answer is yes. I have a ipad 2 with 3G, it has a built in GPS receiver. I have navonics loaded and use it on Scotland west coast where there is frequently no 3G connection. Navonics works seamlessly

 

[Colvic Watson]

Yes.

see many threads passim.

Maybe we should have this as a sticky

 

[duncan99210]

Just another yes. We've used it on long passages where we've been out of mobile signal for days at a time. It sometime take a bit longer to decide where it is when there's no mobile signal to help it sort out which satellites to look for but it does work.

 

[markhomer]

Yes , had one too , excellent , broke it and replaced with 3g 4 , on insurance , wouldnt reccomend selling a 2 to get 4 , didnt notice much difference and my retinas comprimised anyway

 

[paul-essex]

I have not got a phone sim at all in mine ( but do have slot for it ) and it works fine on GPS

I haven't got a sim in it because I just connect to the internet thought my phone " tethering"

 

[Jamesuk]

Ok so,

I have an ipad 2 wifi version and my accelerometer and compass work on google maps. As long as i have had a wifi connection to locate my position. It works.

Now i have long thought that the 3g version does have S-GPS and thought A-GPS was position found via cellular networks without data (much like the iphone 1) the AGPS was your global position found faster with the use of data.

I was on the blower to buy one today and the sales rep said 'you can ask anyone here and all will say the same, none of the ipads have a postioning chip. The only one that does is the new iPad Air which has a GLONASS CHIP.

Remember im talking. Turn on ipad mid atlantic and use Navionics without cell etc.

You can buy a bluetooth device to give the ipad true SGPS

 

[pvb]

I was on the blower to buy one today and the sales rep said 'you can ask anyone here and all will say the same, none of the ipads have a postioning chip. The only one that does is the new iPad Air which has a GLONASS CHIP.

Suggest you get on the blower to a geezer wot knows.

 

[Nigel-in-Oxford]

Ok so,

I have an ipad 2 wifi version and my accelerometer and compass work on google maps. As long as i have had a wifi connection to locate my position. It works.

Now i have long thought that the 3g version does have S-GPS and thought A-GPS was position found via cellular networks without data (much like the iphone 1) the AGPS was your global position found faster with the use of data.

I was on the blower to buy one today and the sales rep said 'you can ask anyone here and all will say the same, none of the ipads have a postioning chip. The only one that does is the new iPad Air which has a GLONASS CHIP.

Remember im talking. Turn on ipad mid atlantic and use Navionics without cell etc.

You can buy a bluetooth device to give the ipad true SGPS

Compleat tosh.
I am using one now and have used it to navigate around the uk coast and deep in the Rocky Mountains with absolutely no cell or othe signals. It has a very good GPS built in.

 

[Colvic Watson]

How many of us have to say it does before he believes us?

 

[Cantata]

I'll say it as well if you like. Half the reason I bought the thing!

 

[nigelmercier]

To make the point absolutely certain, the GPS and 3G modules are in the same chip; so if it has one, it has the other.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

And here are instructions to replace the gps antenna http://http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPad+2+GSM+GPS+Antenna+Replacement/10205

 

[Giblets]

I'll say it as well if you like. Half the reason I bought the thing!

And I will say so as well. In fact SWMBO is currently stateside bimbling around the Monument Valley area in Utah using hers to navigate with and that has no SIM in it (which is sitting on my desk here at home). I fancy the cell phone network and wireless coverage is a tad sparse over there!

 

[Jamesuk]

Ahh the bloody sh[t at the Apple call centre, i had the card out ready to pay and he said 'no ipad has gps'.

Ok cheers consider this closed. Im ordering in the morning.

 

[dunedin]

Ahh the bloody sh[t at the Apple call centre, i had the card out ready to pay and he said 'no ipad has gps'.

Ok cheers consider this closed. Im ordering in the morning.

Or as you got bad advice consider a Samsung tablet instead - most of them have GPS even in the cheaper wifi versions, which avoids the odd Apple design constraint

 

[Jamesuk]

Or as you got bad advice consider a Samsung tablet instead - most of them have GPS even in the cheaper wifi versions, which avoids the odd Apple design constraint

I bought it hurrah although just for all of you. I'm going to call up again and record the call as the second guy also said it does not have true GPS like you get in a Geko or Furuno. Kept going on about towers and GPS information stored on networks etc

I also bought an old Transformer as I sail across Biscay again soon and will test them out