TonyBuckley
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I remember some years back about some ultasonic (maybe) device that prevented fouling - not sure if that was just barnacles or weeds also.
Did anything come of that?
Did anything come of that?
DIY Antifouling
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AntarcticPilot
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The biocides in stuff like Patio Magic are highly soluble compounds such as oxalic or boric acids. They would leach out very quickly and not provide the long-lasting effects required of an anti-fouling substance. Being fairly potent acids in their own right, they would probably also wreck the chemistry of the paint.
If it was that easy, a) it would be on the market and b) it would have been discovered centuries ago and the Royal Navy wouldn't have had the edge it acquired in the late 18th century when it discovered that copper kept ships clear of fouling better than any magic formula - and believe me, they'd tried plenty!
zimp58
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my boat is very happy with udder cream on her bottom
robertj
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A club mate uses tbt's suspended in a soluble paint of some kind which really works.
No fouling at all!
No fouling at all!
AntarcticPilot
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And if the HSE catch up with him, he is in trouble - TBT is banned world-wide for use as an antifoul.
I use chilli powder, the hottest I can buy, add lots to the cheapest paint, so it's still paintable, the finish is slightly rough on the fingertips but as I cruise not race it is not a problem. Had the tip some 4 years ago from a guy in Barcelona who claimed to have the cleanest bottom in the med, it has worked well for me, also in the med in a high foul area.
smeaks
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They did not have patios in the 18th century...... That's why they did not have it the admiralty had a special projects team desperately trying to develop paved terraces into patios .....
Searush
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The trouble was, they were too busy fighting the French to discover their wonderful patios, that's why we suffered with paved terraces for so much longer than we needed to.
smeaks
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Damm those frenchies!
Nicholas123
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Fair point.My head of research has now decided cheap anti-fouling paint thinned right down with several magical ingredients mentioned here is now the way to go.
Should be possible to spray it on the same tide as the scrubbing is done on & though it won't be as thick as if I plastered it on.It may well last 3/4 months.With the added bonus of less moon like bottom in the long run & far less preparation.
Eat your hearts out all you 'experts'
Nicholas123
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It's hard to see how anyone can be as confused as you seem to be.You would'nt happen to be one of the systems engineers setting up the various IT projects the Government is always trying to role out would you by any chance?
josephmoore
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Please video
BruceDanforth
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Have you tried going somewhere in the boat periodically? Perhaps an 80 mile weekend trip? This seems to get the antifouling working.
Fair point.My head of research has now decided cheap anti-fouling paint thinned right down with several magical ingredients mentioned here is now the way to go.
Should be possible to spray it on the same tide as the scrubbing is done on & though it won't be as thick as if I plastered it on.It may well last 3/4 months.With the added bonus of less moon like bottom in the long run & far less preparation.
Eat your hearts out all you 'experts'
Nicholas123
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Please video
I don't think that would be wise.I could well be sitting on the goose that lays the golden egg here
30boat
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As seen in a book from the thirties.
Some kind of cyanide mixed with mercury and copper oxyde.Worked like a charm.
By the way isn't TBT still available for ships antifouling paints?
Some kind of cyanide mixed with mercury and copper oxyde.Worked like a charm.
By the way isn't TBT still available for ships antifouling paints?
Nicholas123
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No I'm more of a pottering sort of bod.I just want an easy life.
chewi
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I don't think that would be wise.I could well be sitting on the goose that lays the golden egg here
maybe.
maybe not.
longjohnsilver
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I don't think that would be wise.I could well be sitting on the goose that lays the golden egg here
Or the barnacled egg..............
AntarcticPilot
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Not any more. There is a world-wide ban on its use for antifouling, because it REALLY messes up the environment. It is produced for use as an intermediary in some chemical processes.
Incidentally, the environmental issues include all sorts of organisms doing things like changing sex. Maybe it doesn't sound like such a good thing any more?
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Tranona
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Fair point.My head of research has now decided cheap anti-fouling paint thinned right down with several magical ingredients mentioned here is now the way to go.
Should be possible to spray it on the same tide as the scrubbing is done on & though it won't be as thick as if I plastered it on.It may well last 3/4 months.With the added bonus of less moon like bottom in the long run & far less preparation.
Eat your hearts out all you 'experts'
You seem to have a knack of ignoring anything that does not fit with your pet "theory".
Several people have told you that the principle of antifouling is that the coating has to be of a thickness that holds the active ingredient in a matrix and slowly releases it over time. So what do you want to do? Make the coat thinner so that it can be "sprayed" - so that means less volume of active ingredients which will lead to even lower levels of effectiveness.
Then you are told that there are no "magic ingredients" that are effective or if they are more effective than the ingredients already available they are illegal. So you are are adding "several magic ingredients" - unspecified but magic.
This approach suggests 3 things
First, you have not got a clue what you are talking about
2 You believe in fairies
and
3 You have time on your hands and are desperate to find alternate ways of wasting it.