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Sorry for stealing this idea ArthurWood.
But i just think this is an amazing piece of kit.
Ideal for checking or cleaning the hulls and sterngears.
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It comes with 25' of hose and is okay to depth of 10'.
Does anybody have anything similar, how good are they? For a full spec. click <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.hamptonandmcmurray.co.uk>Hampton and McMurray

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You got me all excited there, I thought it was some special gadget /forums/images/icons/wink.gif I am afraid that this will not be of any use to me personaly as I am a already a professional diver (well PADI advanced /forums/images/icons/wink.gif) and have all the gear. My 16yr old son is far more experienced than me and at professional standard, although he can't become an instructor for another 18mths due to his age, he is willing to help anyone out in our area. That reminds me, Mainshiptom PM me re another suitable date!

Just make sure you don't get trapped under the boat, e.g. scrubbing it as the tide goes out, if you are on a mud mooring, and getting trapped /forums/images/icons/wink.gif You may also need some weight to keep you down at a suitable level, but may be better to do your PADI open water and then get a tank and regulator, diving can be dangerous /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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I am off tommrow morning for three weeks, You can come up and join me since the water will be very clear.


Last time I was anchored I dived under the boat to check the props !

There is some rope on shafts but none over props ?


Regarding this pump ! I will be intreasted since I am a diver but no gear !
It would be useful for me to get under the boat with no bottles to refill !


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I will PM you later and we can arrange a day when Happy Junior is not lifeguarding.

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I have done some basic diving Training In a pool, but thats it, and i don't have any gear. I'd love to do more.
I don't need to woory about the tide going out in the Loch!!
I just thought it would be quite good for people who don't have any diving gear and if they were sensible, wouldn't cause to much of a problem. Also its a lot less cumbersom that a full diving kit.



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Where did you dive in Poole? /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Yes I am sure it would be interesting, just how easy would it be to cut that tube when SWMBO is down under scrubbing /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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Could prove interesting... down scrubbing the bottom when the power drain flattens the battery. Gulp!

More a problem would be controlling bouyancy with no BCD. I'll stick with a tank and stab, thanks.

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A great idea for those not qualified to scuba. There have been some disturbing threads in the past of unqualified folk buying the scuba gear (just for shallow dives!!) It's only when you've gone through the training that you realise how crackers they are.
So, a good and reasonably safe solution me thinks.
PS Don't add any more tube...I bet someone does.
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Alistair I would always be wary of using anything like this unless you are familiar with regulators and pressurised air etc. (I have done basic PADI course and a few dives but not for a while)
10 feet doesn't sound very deep but if anything goes wrong when you are down there then...
lung volume changes are greatest in the first 30 feet of a dive and even more so the last 10 feet - if you lose the regulator you need to be able to retrieve it safely while under the water or come up safely - if you take a breath at 10 feet (even breathing air at atmospheric pressure from a surface supply) and come up without breathing out but are holding your breath, then any weak areas on your lung (i.e. bulla(e)) could POP, especially if you are a smoker

obviously if you have done diving courses you will be aware of all of this and maybe I am being a bit obsessive but one of my friends is a police diver and I have heard a lot of stories both here and abroad of people doing stupid things in/under water and suffering the consequences.

I think either use simple snorkel and mask or proper diving kit - not a half-way- house which needs electricity to keep you going

anyway the loch is usually too cold to stay in it for longer than one breath hold!
(if you value your gonads)

maybe Happy1 could tell us more about the safety of this approach?

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Alan



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Thanks for the credit, Alistair!
A friend of mine has one of the more sophisticated models from the same company and swears by it for cleaning his boat bottom.
I was thinking of shortening a snorkel and attaching some plastic tubing, the other end of which I would attach above water somewhere. I expect someone here can tell me if this would/wouldn't work. I would need weights as I am quite buoyant/forums/images/icons/smile.gif


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A mask and snorkel is my usual approach, to dealing with these things.

However the boat is having to come out the water this week for a service, so i have the perfect opportunity to clean it up..

The Loch's not that cold, We will need to get you out on the jetski, and let you find out for yourself..



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I like the idea, However i Don't own a big boat so probably wouldn't buy one quite yet.
//I thought it might have been of interest to others.
You're bouyant!!! Full of hot air are we/forums/images/icons/wink.gif.



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I would love to get out on a jetski (can I strap the baby to my back?)
was half-thinking about geting one actually
but will need the pennies for a new boat

was only kidding about the cold (I think)

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Well then we will need to get you out on it then....
As for HOW cold brrrrrr brrrrrrr You will quickly find out./forums/images/icons/wink.gif/forums/images/icons/wink.gif



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Where would you actually use this equipment?

Look at my post dated 22/06/03 Re: Public Liability Insurance.

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Good point Trudie, But i think if you using it for yourself, then you wouldn't need Public liability Insurance, And the marinas wouldn't have much to complain about.
However using this type of equipment or any diving gear, you need to be mighty careful what you are doing...

Cheers...

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Alistairr

I have been looking into diving in marinas as hwmbo has been told under no circumstances is he allowed to dive in our marina. Not even to clean our own boat.

We have both been diving for over twenty years with BSAC so certainley know what we are doing.

To be able to dive in the marina he would need to have Public Liability Insurance, to get this he would have to do his HSE (a five week course) costing approx 5 grand. Even then it would still be difficult to get PLI unless he set up a company.

The answer we have come up with - move the boat to the other side of the marina wall.

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Re: Dirty Bottom, and unqualified diving

It seem not bad - but it is not cheap, and entry-level dive gear costs less than $700 i think.

I am now a bit wurrid about the humming and hawing about unqualified divers (me) just hey ho plopping the stuff on and scraping underneath. I did do a 1-day course thing. Bit of explanation of the gear, then plop the gear on and sit on bottom of swimming pool for half an hour or more, in the afternoon whizzed offshore for a 10m dive. I don't do anything anywhere near as deep as 10 m. Not even as much as the swmming pool, with all those dangerous chemicals in.

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I have looked into it and you are quite right. I also think it depends on who runs the marina. I would be 99% sure the marina i am in would not question it. Which may not be a good thing.

Personally i don't dive, and the only time i wipe my babies bum is when we goto a beach for a BBQ, And i go in the water and wipe as for as my arms can reach. Fortunatly being 6'4" tall my arms are quite long!!!/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Its terrible these days how everything comes down to 'LIABLE' and the first thing people think is who can we sue...

Thanks...

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