Diesel

[Seastoke]

So what is the differance between normal red and heating fuel, it takes a lot of fuel to heat my house

 

[simonfraser]

the tax

 

[Farmer Piles]

Heating fuel is normally kerosene which is thicker and heavier than diesel with a higher calorific value. For example, you couldn't put diesel through a system meant for kerosene or vice versa.

 

[Alicatt]

Heating fuel is normally kerosene which is thicker and heavier than diesel with a higher calorific value. For example, you couldn't put diesel through a system meant for kerosene or vice versa.

Kerosene is lighter than diesel, kerosene is fractioned off at 205 -260 degrees c and Diesel at 260-315 degrees c

 

[Blue Sunray]

Kerosene is lighter than diesel, kerosene is fractioned off at 205 -260 degrees c and Diesel at 260-315 degrees c

Indeed, Kero has more (in fact rather a lot) in common with Jet fuel than heating oil.

 

[Seastoke]

Kerosene is lighter than diesel, kerosene is fractioned off at 205 -260 degrees c and Diesel at 260-315 degrees c

So you cant use heating oil in Bobcat i have .

 

[Alicatt]

Indeed, Kero has more (in fact rather a lot) in common with Jet fuel than heating oil.

jet fuel (aviation kerosene) comes between petrol and paraffin/kerosene.

It's been a long time since I did high school chemistry, my younger brother worked in the oil industry and we had a petrol/paraffin tractor on the farm a Ferguson 35

So you cant use heating oil in Bobcat i have .

I dunno, never had a bobcat, only Case International, JCB, Fergie and David Brown, the Fergie ran on petrol/parafin and the DB petrol, the other two on red agri diesel.
Fuel oil is in that bit between kerosene and diesel, so maybe

 

[BruceK]

That's going to make the beer on tap taste really awful, possibly undrinkable mate.

 

[PCUK]

Red diesel is a lot more expensive than heating oil so why would you want to?

 

[markspark7]

Red diesel is a lot more expensive than heating oil so why would you want to?

Just out of interest how much are people paying for red diesel at the moment?? I pay 46p at work (Commercially for aux unit) and 70p at the marina for domestic only??

 

[CLB]

Red diesel is called 35 second, while heating oil is 28 second. They are most definitely different things. Red diesel is basically the same as road diesel.

 

[CLB]

Just out of interest how much are people paying for red diesel at the moment?? I pay 46p at work (Commercially for aux unit) and 70p at the marina for domestic only??

95ppl 60/40. I think it could be cheaper, but the stock was bought earlier in the year.

 

[NormanS]

Heating fuel is normally kerosene which is thicker and heavier than diesel with a higher calorific value. For example, you couldn't put diesel through a system meant for kerosene or vice versa.

You'd better not tell my Eberspacher that. It's designed to run on diesel, but I've been running it on kerosene for years now. Gives a cleaner burn with no sooting on the heat exchanger.

 

[markspark7]

You'd better not tell my Eberspacher that. It's designed to run on diesel, but I've been running it on kerosene for years now. Gives a cleaner burn with no sooting on the heat exchanger.

I know a few people who do that , do you have a separate tank for the Eberspacher?

 

[Farmer Piles]

Kerosene is lighter than diesel, kerosene is fractioned off at 205 -260 degrees c and Diesel at 260-315 degrees c

My mistake, I knew that one was heavier than the other

 

[NormanS]

Y

I know a few people who do that , do you have a separate tank for the Eberspacher?

Yes, it's just a modified 20 litre container, sitting in a stainless steel wire cage.

 

[penberth3]

So you cant use heating oil in Bobcat i have .

Something like an old Lister will run on just about any oily liquid. I wouldn't try it with a modern engine.

 

[NormanS]

Something like an old Lister will run on just about any oily liquid. I wouldn't try it with a modern engine.

I used to have an old Gardner engine in a boat. The instruction manual suggested that if running on paraffin, some (I now can't remember how much) lube oil should be added. It even mentioned old oil after an oil change, but suggested straining it first. ? I never tried mine on paraffin.
Kelvin marine engines, and many others, were originally started on petrol, and then changed to TVO (Tractor Vapourising Oil), once warmed up. Some models of Kelvin diesels were started on petrol, and then changed over to diesel.

 

[Beneteau381]

Something like an old Lister will run on just about any oily liquid. I wouldn't try it with a modern engine.

Try to find an old Gardner instruction manual, it goes in to detail on how to filter the old engine oil to use as fuel! To the other posters. The heavier the oil, the more calorific power it delivers when burned. So diesel at 35 secs is more powerful than 28 sec kerosene or heating oil, petrol is less powerful again and gas even less. Thats why gas powered cars get less mpg than petrol and why diesel powered cars are inherently more economical then petrol. Eberspachers run ok on heating oil/kerosene, It runs cleaner too, I did an article in PBO a few years ago. Espar in usa used to recommend it to decoke them, Eberspacher UK man got bent outof shape about it until I produced the Espar service note. I used to drop the pump suction pipe in to a plastic bidon of heating oil.
oop sorry Norm youbeat me to it

 

[Alicatt]

A friend borrowed a Fergie 35 and trailer from the farm next door to go pick up a few Caithness flagstones for a retaining wall, he drove the tractor the 5 miles to the other farm and half way down the field he stopped in a cloud of steam, he had popped the core plugs from running it on petrol the whole way and not swapping over to paraffin once the engine was warmed up.