stubate
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youre quite right my man
same here, diesels do have cats
stu
same here, diesels do have cats
stu
diesel fuel changes to red diesel
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stubate
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H2S is a gas and wont be found in diesel
crude which is hi in H2S produces products that, when they have been thru the cracker (refinery) (which utilises heat), contain some sulphur.
stu
crude which is hi in H2S produces products that, when they have been thru the cracker (refinery) (which utilises heat), contain some sulphur.
stu
stubate
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qualified ??
but there are other people just as qualified as you that have just as relevent views on various subjects and just because you dont agree with them doesnt mean to say that you have to put them down with "here we go again"
stu
but there are other people just as qualified as you that have just as relevent views on various subjects and just because you dont agree with them doesnt mean to say that you have to put them down with "here we go again"
stu
hlb
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Re: qualified ??
Poor bugger only wanted to know if his engine would run in france. Not chapter and verse on how to make the stuff. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
<font color=blue> Haydn
Poor bugger only wanted to know if his engine would run in france. Not chapter and verse on how to make the stuff. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
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stubate
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exactly
luv victor
luv victor
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Balls ....
It was an illustration to show that reduction of sulphur and other compunds DOES actually reduce lubrication quality of the fuel.
I wouldn't have invested in the gear if it hadn't been for the Germans changing DIN / EN specs !!!!
Anyway - good for a laugh eh ?????
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
It was an illustration to show that reduction of sulphur and other compunds DOES actually reduce lubrication quality of the fuel.
I wouldn't have invested in the gear if it hadn't been for the Germans changing DIN / EN specs !!!!
Anyway - good for a laugh eh ?????
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
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Touche mon puddycat !
Agreed ... but its a merrygo round subject isnt it !!!
And if I feel a point is not strictly right - its my right to comment !!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
Agreed ... but its a merrygo round subject isnt it !!!
And if I feel a point is not strictly right - its my right to comment !!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
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I picked up on ANOTHERS .....
Originally my post was in that light and I think fair and advised no problem ..... another chose to open the field wider ..... why should I stand back and let others play !!!!
Anybody for tennis ????
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
Originally my post was in that light and I think fair and advised no problem ..... another chose to open the field wider ..... why should I stand back and let others play !!!!
Anybody for tennis ????
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
Anchorite
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Re: Frog fights back!
We have red diesel in France: it is as you said same spec as gasoil with a
dye. It is sold on garage forecourts ostensibly for heating or other non-automotive
use (stationary engines). You have to fill in a form when you buy it (in jerrycans or tanks) so "they"can track you down if they doubt your eventual use. Commercial
boats can use red hence the BP barge on the Rhone at Lyon. At present gasoil
(in France) costs about 70% of unleaded petrol: the red stuff is about 50%. And
Le Gouvernement needs all the money it can get (it will be well spent OR: it
will be, well, spent).
We have red diesel in France: it is as you said same spec as gasoil with a
dye. It is sold on garage forecourts ostensibly for heating or other non-automotive
use (stationary engines). You have to fill in a form when you buy it (in jerrycans or tanks) so "they"can track you down if they doubt your eventual use. Commercial
boats can use red hence the BP barge on the Rhone at Lyon. At present gasoil
(in France) costs about 70% of unleaded petrol: the red stuff is about 50%. And
Le Gouvernement needs all the money it can get (it will be well spent OR: it
will be, well, spent).
hlb
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Re: exactly
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lauradee
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did i spell it right ?
frog en francais ?
stu
frog en francais ?
stu
Anchorite
Member
Re: Well, nearly
Kermit is spelt: GRENOUILLE (as in "cuisses de grenouilles").
P.S. The red stuff (for the benefit of those who want to chance their arm) is
called F.O.D. (Fuel oil domestique).
Kermit is spelt: GRENOUILLE (as in "cuisses de grenouilles").
P.S. The red stuff (for the benefit of those who want to chance their arm) is
called F.O.D. (Fuel oil domestique).
Sybarite
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Re: More about diesel in France.
Costs (a few years ago) were made up as follows :
(€uros) Material costs Special taxes VAT 19.6% Total
98 octane unleaded petrol 0.159 0.590 0.147 0.806
Diesel 0.142 0.370 0.101 0.613
Red Diesel Fuel-oil dom 0.151 0.079 0.046 0.276
( In the draft this was neatly set out in a table ! You need to imagine 4 columns)
Costs have risen by about 20% since then. However the point that I want to make is that the big difference is in the special taxes of which the TIPP (excise duty) represents approx. 95%. I would definitely not recommend anybody fooling around with the French Customs or they might find that their boat is confiscated. A work colleague lost his brand new Volvo car by trying to take 'short cuts'. I ealize that there is the burden of proof but if the refuelling barge is being observed.... (The person who lost his car was engaged in polite conversation in a motorway café by an 'admirer' of the car who got him talking casually about it).
Incidentally the TIPP is modulated when there is a raw material price change of more than 10%. When prices rise over the 10% the TIPP is reduced accordingly. The converse is true for a raw price reduction of more than 10%.
Costs (a few years ago) were made up as follows :
(€uros) Material costs Special taxes VAT 19.6% Total
98 octane unleaded petrol 0.159 0.590 0.147 0.806
Diesel 0.142 0.370 0.101 0.613
Red Diesel Fuel-oil dom 0.151 0.079 0.046 0.276
( In the draft this was neatly set out in a table ! You need to imagine 4 columns)
Costs have risen by about 20% since then. However the point that I want to make is that the big difference is in the special taxes of which the TIPP (excise duty) represents approx. 95%. I would definitely not recommend anybody fooling around with the French Customs or they might find that their boat is confiscated. A work colleague lost his brand new Volvo car by trying to take 'short cuts'. I ealize that there is the burden of proof but if the refuelling barge is being observed.... (The person who lost his car was engaged in polite conversation in a motorway café by an 'admirer' of the car who got him talking casually about it).
Incidentally the TIPP is modulated when there is a raw material price change of more than 10%. When prices rise over the 10% the TIPP is reduced accordingly. The converse is true for a raw price reduction of more than 10%.
colvic
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Re: More about diesel in France.
Re your piece about your friend and the "casual" conversation; this is exactly how the Spanish customs are operating at the moment finding liveaboards to TAX.
Phil
Re your piece about your friend and the "casual" conversation; this is exactly how the Spanish customs are operating at the moment finding liveaboards to TAX.
Phil
Oldhand
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Re: fear not...
Catalytic converters ARE used on diesel engines as well as petrol engines.
Catalytic converters ARE used on diesel engines as well as petrol engines.
dk
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Re: sulphur
What about cooking oil then Nige - does this do any harm to the engine/injectors?
What about cooking oil then Nige - does this do any harm to the engine/injectors?
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Cooking Oil
Dunno ...... never tried it, but I know it works with a small amount of additive in. I suppose it also depends what you cooked in it as well !!!!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
Dunno ...... never tried it, but I know it works with a small amount of additive in. I suppose it also depends what you cooked in it as well !!!!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
stubate
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welsh cooking oil
as you have probably seen a few weeks ago on tv, plonkers in south wales have found out that their diesel engined cars will run on cooking oil, which is significantly cheaper than road fuel. local super marts were astounded by amount being sold
however
what said plonkers dont realise is that vegetable oil oxidises to produce a hard rubbery residue (have a look at a deep fat fryer which uses veg cooking oil ie rapeseed) (this is the basis of how old fashioned paint works by the way, oxidising
to produce a hard finish.)
now it may be cheap to burn but the complete fuel system from tank to injector will soon start to clog up with oxidised oil, especially in the hotter parts of the fuel sytem.
stu
as you have probably seen a few weeks ago on tv, plonkers in south wales have found out that their diesel engined cars will run on cooking oil, which is significantly cheaper than road fuel. local super marts were astounded by amount being sold
however
what said plonkers dont realise is that vegetable oil oxidises to produce a hard rubbery residue (have a look at a deep fat fryer which uses veg cooking oil ie rapeseed) (this is the basis of how old fashioned paint works by the way, oxidising
to produce a hard finish.)
now it may be cheap to burn but the complete fuel system from tank to injector will soon start to clog up with oxidised oil, especially in the hotter parts of the fuel sytem.
stu
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Stock Market shock as .....
Cooking Oil Co. buys out major Oil Co !!!!!!!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
Cooking Oil Co. buys out major Oil Co !!!!!!!
Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !
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just as a matter of idle curiosity - and with no intention of using the info - just what red dye is used and how do ruthless and dishonest people go about removing it?
i heard that farmers used barrels of chalk.
i heard that farmers used barrels of chalk.