Deck Shoes; a cautionary tale

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Last season was one of mainly good weather and from April on I was wearing deckies nearly all the time, afloat and ashore. One or other of three pairs, a pair of new Quaysides, a pair of older Timberland and an old pair of Clarkes. Probably the Timberland more than the others, most of the time without socks. Around July I started to get a pain in my right heel which I attributed to a bruise, perhaps from jumping off the boat. (I have a new metal left knee which I try to protect.) The pain got worse and worse day by day, until I was finding it very difficult to walk anywhere, the pain was awful and built up through the day, the only footwear I could work in was my Vibram sole hiking boots, laced up tight. ( I 'pilot' boats through the Crinan Canal when not away cruising, involving a lot of walking and pushing) Eventually I saw my GP who diagnosed 'plantar fasciitis', a condition I had never heard off until then, though apparently it is commonplace, particularly among runners. It is inflammation of the tendon like tissue that connects the heel at the base of the achilles to your toes and can take up to a year to clear. The Timberland deck shoes were blamed as they are the flat type with little in the form of arch stiffness. On line research of the condition brought me to a number of running websites, the advice was before buying shoes to try bending the toe toward the heel, it should bend ok but not any further back than the instep, then you try twisting the sole while holding the heel, it should completely resist this. New Balance and Cotswold Leisure were recommended as people who new how to make or sell safe shoes.
The Timberland shoes failed both tests, the Clarkes were quite a bit better while the Quaysides with a built up instep and raised heel were good. The Crocs I was wearing around the house and for taking the dog ashore on beaches were also quite stiff in the right places.
The pain persisted without much relief and in September I went to the Cotswold shop in Glasgow where an impressively knowledgeable assistant measured my feet and produced a pair of Lowa boots with Vibram soles, he also had them in a shoe version and they felt so good I was tempted to buy both, but I had never spent £150 per pair on shoes before, not even for my Dubs, so I settled for the shoes, he also persuaded me to buy some Bridgedale socks at over £16 each pair. I also purchased some arch support insoles from a pharmacy a pair of which I use in my Dubarry boots. I wore the new shoes almost all the time when outdoors and within two or three weeks the pain had lessened and now it has almost gone completely, I feel very lucky that it has gone so soon.
The Timberland deck shoes were not that cheap and there are plenty out there with similar characteristics, they are probably OK for occasional wear but I am not taking any chances, quite a lot of pairs of shoes went to the bin. So my advice is to be picky about your deck shoes and if they are soft and flat wear them as little as possible.
 
I have had plantar fasciitis since I was a teenager from time to time. It may be that the tests you describe are helpful but I have always found its onset and disappearance mystifying, though flat shoes tend to contribute to its appearing. My everyday rough shoes are Timberland, so it is hard to generalise.
 
I have also suffered from the same thing. Indeed, about ten years ago it got so bad that I was struggling to walk any distance at all. Eventually I was seen at hospital, and was given leather insoles, which have upwards facing "lumps" aft of the balls of my feet, but forward of the arch. Initially I was sceptical, but the result has been astonishing, and I can now walk for many miles without discomfort.

I now add these lumps to the insoles of all my boots, shoes, trainers, and even my slippers. What a result from such a simple modification!
 
Is advertising - subtle as it may be- allowed

I was not advertising anything, subtly or otherwise, simply recounting a recent unpleasant experience in as much detail as possible in the hope it might be useful to someone else.
What is the point of offering information if you have to edit all the useful detail out of it.
 
I have had plantar fasciitis since I was a teenager from time to time. It may be that the tests you describe are helpful but I have always found its onset and disappearance mystifying, though flat shoes tend to contribute to its appearing. My everyday rough shoes are Timberland, so it is hard to generalise.

I agree that the fault is with the particular product, I have Timberland all terrain shoes which are fine. I quoted the make to demonstrate that the problem shoes were not just cheapies and because many reputable companies make similar deck shoes with the same risks. It is a small risk, I think about only 1 in 10 ever get it but the pain becomes so excruciating it is worth avoiding.
 
I suspect that the key to healthy feet is to use them as much as possible the way that god intended - barefoot. That said Quandary is quite right. Cheap and nasty deck shoes arent any good for your plates. Neither are expensive and nasty as in Timberland. That is a classic case of American branding skills selling cheap products at a hjigh price. As in Harley for example.
 
I have also suffered from the same thing. Indeed, about ten years ago it got so bad that I was struggling to walk any distance at all. Eventually I was seen at hospital, and was given leather insoles, which have upwards facing "lumps" aft of the balls of my feet, but forward of the arch. Initially I was sceptical, but the result has been astonishing, and I can now walk for many miles without discomfort.

I now add these lumps to the insoles of all my boots, shoes, trainers, and even my slippers. What a result from such a simple modification!

Interesting. I bought Clarks deckshoes (I think you can also get a Musto branded version) last year and they have little bumps in the insole. I had wondered what they were for! Incidentally, they are comfortable and very grippy (and no, I'm not advertising).

I also need a stiff sole for walking, bit it's to relieve the pain from an artheriticy big toe. Vibram is generally a must in walking shoes and the stiffness test is worth doing.
 
Your shoes should have a stiff bit between the heel and about mid way along the sole. Even my super flexible dance shoes have a rigid part just in front of the heel. I believe it's called a shank.
 
A few years ago I signed up for a delivery trip with a friend. His boat being pretty posh I opted to wear deckies. It was a tightish schedule so I didn't expect much shore time and I was flying back so I didn't take the trainers I would normally wear for trips ashore. We found ourselves holed up in Scheveningen for a few days for repairs and the dock was a mile or so from the town centre. On the first day we walked into town and back OK but on the second day my feet were so painful I had to stay on board while the rest of the crew went ashore. For the rest of the trip I was limited to a couple of hundred yards from the quayside.

Once I got home I changed back into trainers with moulded cushioned soles and I was OK again pretty well straight away. I put it down to the flat hard soles and walking on pavements.
 
A few years ago I signed up for a delivery trip with a friend. His boat being pretty posh I opted to wear deckies. It was a tightish schedule so I didn't expect much shore time and I was flying back so I didn't take the trainers I would normally wear for trips ashore. We found ourselves holed up in Scheveningen for a few days for repairs and the dock was a mile or so from the town centre. On the first day we walked into town and back OK but on the second day my feet were so painful I had to stay on board while the rest of the crew went ashore. For the rest of the trip I was limited to a couple of hundred yards from the quayside.

Once I got home I changed back into trainers with moulded cushioned soles and I was OK again pretty well straight away. I put it down to the flat hard soles and walking on pavements.

I hope I never get old...
 
I badly injured a foot quite a few years ago. I was told by the podiatrist (who was a sailor) that wearing deck shoes was definite no no due to lack of arch support.
 
Apparently so. There are videos from yacht delivery companies, blatant advertising of binoculars, etc. Nothing subtle about those!

And those people (who shall remain nameless) are some of the best posters. After all this forum needs content.
 
Reading this forum is getting expensive, I have just bought a new toothbrush, now I have to buy new shoes.


The toothbrush had the desired effect in 2 weeks.
 
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