D4-D6 Exhausts

[sap_2000]

It's not actually a warranty, but in Norway we have strong consumer rights manifested by law that gives us the right to claim repair/ a fix for up to 5 years as long as the product is intended to last at least that long and originally sold in Norway by a norwegian company to a private consumer.

 

[Andrew38]

5 year rule covering warranty claims in Norway - sounds like we all need to move our boats over to you guys

Thanks for assisting us in Good old Blighty Spannerman much appreciated on behalf of all forumites

Warranties in the UK generally expires when the cheque has unfortunatelly cleared

On a positive front - fit for purpose rings a bell!!!

God these smilies are absolutelly carp ;-) that's better

I think 1975 Sale of Goods Act kicks in here when there is known design and/or manufacturing fault. Also I believe European law gives 6 years protection in similar circumstances. There are better informed people on this forum who may be able to confirm this.

 

[Andrew38]

What date range are these engines, mine are 3 & a bit years old, would they be affected ?

Mine are 2010 with serial numbers from the higher of the two batches quoted

 

[Andrew38]

In your pic I see that your waterline is level with the top of the shield, where the antifouling ends, I am pretty sure you will have risers on the exhaust bend, ( it goes up and over in a loop then down and has a grey insulation jacket around it,) if so you need to talk to your dealer.

Thanks spannerman, SSL should be inpecting tomorrow

 

[LionsDen]

I think 1975 Sale of Goods Act kicks in here when there is known design and/or manufacturing fault. Also I believe European law gives 6 years protection in similar circumstances. There are better informed people on this forum who may be able to confirm this.

I agree - A brace off D6 435's for example costing new circa £70k plus should easily last 6 years if not a life time for that sort off money imho if serviced properly

 

[oldgit]

Even on really early VP outdrives there was corrosion problem where the rubber exhaust hose from the turbo clamped onto the exhaust horn.Presumably the carbon in the hose and the aluminium in the exhaust horn did not get on well and basically it dissolved under the jubilee clip type fastening.
This may not has been to much of a problem unless as in my case the transom, assembly was below the water line.
Must have been a fairly common complaint as a sleeve type repair kit was cobbled together most probably as the replacement cost of a new horn and the required movement of the engine to fit must have been horrendous.

Nothing new under the sun ?

 

[Andyroonot]

Excellent, another Volvo Penta bashing thread...

Check here when you have your serial numbers, which should be on stickers on the tops of your engine covers:
http://www.volvopenta.com/volvopent...lication_search/Pages/publication_search.aspx

They make no secret of their recall campaigns and positively encourage their Dealer network to search for and complete campaigns for customers to ensure they get to as many as they can.

Also, it should be pointed out that this recall only effects the installations that have the high riser installed - those with the standard exhaust elbow are not affected. Volvo have published a serial number range that could have a problem, and are paying Dealers to inspect each one to see if it has the high riser installed. Those that do then have measurements taken to establish the waterline height before proceeding further, those that don't are ticked off the list as unaffected.

 

[Andrew38]

In praise of SSL!

Within 3 hours of my contacting them SSL had been to the boat and checked it. Fortunately my set up doesn't have the risers so no further action required.

Have to say I've bookmarked Andyroonot's link as it works well and makes sense to check it every two or three months

 

[rubberduck]

Checked mine with the local dealer Volspec today. They have already checked them OBO Volvo & fortunately they do not have the risers so not affected. Nice to know these things are dealt with properly by the dealers so a big plus to Volvo & Volspec from me.

 

[CHI]

One for Volvopaul and spannerman please,

My twin D4 260,s are circa 2005. They are earlier than the serial numbers quoted.


The top horn risers appear to be stainless steel ! covered with the heat jacket. Were later models changed to an inferior metal. I did have them checked a year ago , all ok. I have also looked at them externally today( boat in the water) no rust stains at all

and appear to be sound.

 

[volvopaul]

One for Volvopaul and spannerman please,

My twin D4 260,s are circa 2005. They are earlier than the serial numbers quoted.


The top horn risers appear to be stainless steel ! covered with the heat jacket. Were later models changed to an inferior metal. I did have them checked a year ago , all ok. I have also looked at them externally today( boat in the water) no rust stains at all

and appear to be sound.

It's not the upper stainless elbow that's at fault it's the lower alloy part that corrodes, and corrodes under the rubber boot to the point it collapses inside.

 

[CHI]

Thanks Volvopaul, i now understand which piece to look at .

Why is this a problem with the d4/d6 sterndrives and not all volvo sterndrive applications? Or is it

 

[spannerman]

Just to clarify, its not all engines that are affected, it was a production batch that are faulty so therefore only certain serial numbers require inspection/replacement.
If its on shafts or doesn't have a riser on the turbo then you are OK. Its boats that have risers because they sit lower in the water meaning the whole downpipe is immersed, that then corrode at the top under the rubber muff.
Have got a Windy Khamsin in the shop now and we are having to take out the port engine to get access to the rear of the starboard engine as there is so much equipment on the outside of the engine so you can't get behind it. Thats going to cost Volvo a lot more than 6 hrs per side!

 

[CHI]

Hi Spannerman. Thanks for you reply. My engines are early 2005 production and do not fall within the re-call. I did have the Risers checked a year ago, ok then , so will look at again when boat is out of the water later this year.

Did Volvo change the metal used in the casting or was it a production issue?

Many thanks

Keith

 

[Switch]

Its within these serial numbers on sterndrive boats only. If your transom shield is partially above the waterline you are not affected by this campaign, but if the transom shield is fully submersed you need to get the exhaust checked.

DPH 2004015848 - 2004033937
2006020777 - 2006041849
A153126 _ A209119

DPH 400 - D4 - D6
2006041419
2006041420
A169163 - A195917

Hi Spannerman, I checked my serial number numbers today, 2006006703 so I can assume I am not affected, correct?

 

[cattho]

Its within these serial numbers on sterndrive boats only. If your transom shield is partially above the waterline you are not affected by this campaign, but if the transom shield is fully submersed you need to get the exhaust checked.

DPH 2004015848 - 2004033937
2006020777 - 2006041849
A153126 _ A209119

DPH 400 - D4 - D6
2006041419
2006041420
A169163 - A195917

Hello
I'm a "lucky" Volvo Penta D6 owner.
The serial numbers are:
Port - 2006003398
Starboard - 2006003678
They are from 2005.
Do I need to be worried? I'm not affected by the campaign?
I will check them anyway.....

 

[Bubblegtt]

My two D4 260 fall into the recall campaign numbers having checked them on the Volvo site!

Not sure if I have risers on the Prestige 34S without looking, but I will give French Marine a call in the morning and ask them to check.

Thanks for the heads up on this

 

[spannerman]

Hi Spannerman, I checked my serial number numbers today, 2006006703 so I can assume I am not affected, correct?

Yes you are in the clear.

 

[spannerman]

My two D4 260 fall into the recall campaign numbers having checked them on the Volvo site!

Not sure if I have risers on the Prestige 34S without looking, but I will give French Marine a call in the morning and ask them to check.

Thanks for the heads up on this

With the waterline so close to the top of the shield I'd guess you have risers fitted.

 

[Andyroonot]

With the waterline so close to the top of the shield I'd guess you have risers fitted.

...but with the waterline still below the top of the transom shields this may well still be unaffected, regardless of whether the risers or the normal elbows are fitted. As per the campaign details, it all comes down to the waterline measurement, and as a general rule, if the shield is partially visible then it is unaffected.