Cruising Association and Robin KJ wade into the Schengen 90/180 day problem.

[Flynnbarr]

We are not asking for favours or preferential treatment, we want no more than what we had before the idiots who ticked the Leave box in the 2016 Referendum initiated a process that took away freedoms we previously had as of right.

Are you unable to construct a post on this subject without insults.

After reading bile from you on this subject for years under your many aliases on here,flouting many bans that you have had for insulting people do you know what springs to mind about your situation..
Oh dear......how sad......never mind....

 

[JumbleDuck]

67 million UK residents visit the EU each year.

There only are 66 million UK residents!

 

[mjcoon]

There only are 66 million UK residents!

I've been known to visit more than once in a year, both on holiday and for work. Maybe I got double-counted...

 

[lustyd]

There only are 66 million UK residents!

How many of those are British though?

 

[Tranona]

There only are 66 million UK residents!

Undoubtedly a large proportion of those don't visit at all so others have to take the strain and go more than once a year. Thought it was compulsory for some to have 2 weeks on the Riviera or in Tuscany in the summer and 2 weeks skiing in the winter.

 

[Tranona]

When motorhomes, property owners and backpackers are added, it's quite a considerable minority. Pity representatives of the various groups can't get together, it may carry more weight if lobbied jointly.

Might result in a bit more noise, although that is not a homogeneous group with shared interests. However unlikely to make any difference. Brexit was always about a clash in political and social principles. On the one hand "sovereignty" of the nation state and on the other the principle of social and political union of states. The positions were taken by those in power without much concern about the impact on fringe groups. Not difficult to work out who those groups might be on both sides, and who lacked power and influence.

 

[Capt Popeye]

More fool you then; for voting for something that would do immense harm to many (and I am not just referring to yachtsmen and second-home owners) and benefit only a wealthy few.

What the hell did you think you think you were playingt at?

Hi Mr P think that overall OUT of that EU will do far more good than staying in; so happy to go with the majority verdict BREXIT

Was thinking of the Common Good not selfish reasons like what might i have to change in my lifestyle , which was tempoary lifestyle anyway, only been available since our joining that EU ; so whats a few years in the scheeme of things, eh ?

As our Mrs T might have said - 'Just Rejoice just Rejoice' -

 

[Gary Fox]

There only are 66 million UK residents!

The big supermarkets think it's more like 80M. One thing is certain, the government don't know.

 

[Caladh]

Sounds extremely elitist, only their members! What about the other hundreds of boat owners who visit the schengen area each year?

It would be interesting to know how many boats this actually affects and why the skippers can't work out a cruising plan, like any other third country skipper, to work with the rules. It can't be that difficult.

So - I had been cruising 7 months of the year in the Eu area. I came home for 6 weeks mid way and then return to my yacht. How do you propose I work within the rules now and do what I did in say 2019? YES it is difficult isn‘t it. ......

 

[Capt Popeye]

So - I had been cruising 7 months of the year in the Eu area. I came home for 6 weeks mid way and then return to my yacht. How do you propose I work within the rules now and do what I did in say 2019? YES it is difficult isn‘t it. ......

Surely just adapt and learn, 2019 was long ago plus No More, eh ?

 

[Mark-1]

So - I had been cruising 7 months of the year in the Eu area. I came home for 6 weeks mid way and then return to my yacht. How do you propose I work within the rules now and do what I did in say 2019? YES it is difficult isn‘t it. ......

Naive question: Is that impossible now? There's no legal mechanism for retired Non EU residents to stay in an EU nation on an extended holiday? You have to either get a job and a work visa or leave?


EDIT: I googled Spain. Spain does a visa for retired people, maybe other places do as well: Spain Long Stay Visas.

 

[Babylon]

As our Mrs T might have said - 'Just Rejoice just Rejoice' -

No, she wouldn't have said that, she'd have been quite horrified.

But if Mrs T - or anyone of her calibre who had Britain's true (i.e. best long-term) interests at heart - had been at the helm, then the gross errors of that fool Blair in the first instance and that fool Cameron in the second wouldn't have occurred.

In the meantime, the current fool and his sycophants can't even spell the word 'complexity'...

 

[Poignard]

Surely just adapt and learn, 2019 was long ago plus No More, eh ?

 

[st599]

Naive question: Is that impossible now? There's no legal mechanism for retired Non EU residents to stay in an EU nation on an extended holiday? You have to either get a job and a work visa or leave?


EDIT: I googled Spain. Spain does a visa for retired people, maybe other places do as well: Spain Long Stay Visas.

It's variable. Some countries do, many don't.
France has a Tourist Visa, but if you're not staying in a hotel, you need funds of 120 Euros per day to apply for it.
Germany has no tourist visa.

Even for work using the deal we signed is a nightmare to work out. It's sector and location specific. Here's the Institute for Government's description of what the rules mean for lawyers (as an engineer the rules are similar):

While the UK–EU FTA goes further than most EU agreements in its coverage of legal services, member states can still impose total bans on UK lawyers advising on their own law.

Even if they are advising on UK law, they may be subject to particular rules. For example, in the Czech Republic, UK lawyers will have to be resident to provide legal advice, while across the border in Austria they are specifically prohibited from being resident and must provide legal advice on a cross-border basis. Many of the EU’s member states will prohibit UK lawyers from any ownership or control of law firms in their countries.

In some member states, UK lawyers will be able to fly in, provide legal advice, and fly out again without work permits. In others, this will be subject to an economic need test.

Perhaps the most important issue for UK lawyers serving EU clients – whether judgments of UK courts will be enforceable in the EU – is not dealt with in the agreement at all.

 

[Frogmogman]

No, she wouldn't have said that, she'd have been quite horrified.

Quite so. Maggie Thatcher was the main architect of the single market. Here are some of the things she said about the UK in Europe.....

"[Prior to the UK joining] Europe wasn’t open for business. Underneath the rhetoric, the old barriers remained. Not just against the outside world, but between the European countries. Not the classic barriers of tariffs, but the insiduous ones of differing national standards, various restrictions on the provision of services, exclusion of foreign firms from public contracts.
Now that’s going to change. Britain has given the lead."

"It’s your job, the job of business, to gear yourselves up to take the opportunities which a single market of nearly 320 million people will offer. Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers—visible or invisible—giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the world’s wealthiest and most prosperous people. Bigger than Japan. Bigger than the United States. On your doorstep. And with the Channel Tunnel to give you direct access to it. It’s not a dream. It’s not a vision. It’s not some bureaucrat’s plan. It’s for real."

As you suggest, she must be turning in her grave.

 

[Poignard]

Quite so. Maggie Thatcher was the main architect of the single market. Here are some of the things she said about the UK in Europe.....

"[Prior to the UK joining] Europe wasn’t open for business. Underneath the rhetoric, the old barriers remained. Not just against the outside world, but between the European countries. Not the classic barriers of tariffs, but the insiduous ones of differing national standards, various restrictions on the provision of services, exclusion of foreign firms from public contracts.
Now that’s going to change. Britain has given the lead."

"It’s your job, the job of business, to gear yourselves up to take the opportunities which a single market of nearly 320 million people will offer. Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers—visible or invisible—giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the world’s wealthiest and most prosperous people. Bigger than Japan. Bigger than the United States. On your doorstep. And with the Channel Tunnel to give you direct access to it. It’s not a dream. It’s not a vision. It’s not some bureaucrat’s plan. It’s for real."

As you suggest, she must be turning in her grave.

 

[syvictoria]

Surely just adapt and learn, 2019 was long ago plus No More, eh ?

Thank you for your help, understanding and support...!

 

[Capt Popeye]

Thank you for your help, understanding and support...!

Well thank you kind Sir

Just to clarify my possition, I am supporting us in the UK/GB Commonwealth etc etc

Might ask who you are indeed supporting ?

 

[dgadee]

It's variable. Some countries do, many don't.
France has a Tourist Visa, but if you're not staying in a hotel, you need funds of 120 Euros per day to apply for it.
Germany has no tourist visa.

Even for work using the deal we signed is a nightmare to work out. It's sector and location specific. Here's the Institute for Government's description of what the rules mean for lawyers (as an engineer the rules are similar):

While the UK–EU FTA goes further than most EU agreements in its coverage of legal services, member states can still impose total bans on UK lawyers advising on their own law.

Even if they are advising on UK law, they may be subject to particular rules. For example, in the Czech Republic, UK lawyers will have to be resident to provide legal advice, while across the border in Austria they are specifically prohibited from being resident and must provide legal advice on a cross-border basis. Many of the EU’s member states will prohibit UK lawyers from any ownership or control of law firms in their countries.

In some member states, UK lawyers will be able to fly in, provide legal advice, and fly out again without work permits. In others, this will be subject to an economic need test.

Perhaps the most important issue for UK lawyers serving EU clients – whether judgments of UK courts will be enforceable in the EU – is not dealt with in the agreement at all.

The big London firms always had loads of US lawyers 'not working' for them. It'll be the same with the EU, I suspect.

 

[syvictoria]

Well thank you kind Sir

Just to clarify my possition, I am supporting us in the UK/GB Commonwealth etc etc

Might ask who you are indeed supporting ?

I am supporting the cruising/liveaboard community, plus others who wish to spend extended periods in the EU - after all, that's what this thread is about, isn't it?