Tony Cross
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And only 7 new cases.
Coronavirus and Greece
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Cariadco
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As previously mentioned, Greece has had 3 conditions to comply with, if you go out. A filled in form, a txt from the government system and your Passport/ID.
Freshly issued today:
''Since the measures came into force on Monday 23 March there have been 49,311 violations throughout Greece, which have each been fined 150 Euros''
That's just under 7.4m Euros....!!!
Freshly issued today:
''Since the measures came into force on Monday 23 March there have been 49,311 violations throughout Greece, which have each been fined 150 Euros''
That's just under 7.4m Euros....!!!
Irish Rover
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Chicken feed compared to the current cost of PPE for medical personnel.
Cariadco
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Quite.
Yngmar
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Some relaxations in Greece from May 4 too:
Greece to Gradually Start Lifting Lockdown Measures on May 4
Greece to Gradually Start Lifting Lockdown Measures on May 4
Irish Rover
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Irish Rover
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Are the BBC taking the urine with this headline today?
Coronavirus: Greeks ponder ban on fax machines in state offices
Greeks ponder fax machine ban amid virus fallout
Coronavirus: Greeks ponder ban on fax machines in state offices
Greeks ponder fax machine ban amid virus fallout
OldBawley
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Some winter – liveaboard in Poros Saronic was caught moving his catamaran and was fined 150 €.
According to the grapevine he had to pay 150 € and stay on his boat which was now moored in front of the Coast guard bureau. Supposedly up to next Monday.
Not bad, mooring there on the town quay for more than a week would cost almost as much.
According to the grapevine he had to pay 150 € and stay on his boat which was now moored in front of the Coast guard bureau. Supposedly up to next Monday.
Not bad, mooring there on the town quay for more than a week would cost almost as much.
nortada
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Ah that was a fine. He may still have to pay mooring dues.
OldBawley
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Yes, possibly. Some other sailors confined by Covid to their yacht take from time to time their fast rib over to Galata to go shopping.
I have a Seagull and a sail on my dinghy so I am quit slow.
Pretty sure I would be fined also when sailing the dinghy to Galata for shopping. (the Seagull is slower than sailing)
I wanted to take the car ferry from Poros to Galata and was told it was forbidden. No police on the Poros side but the ticket selling lady said that police was checking the Galata side.
Dahm stupid because in Galata the supermarket is very big and not crowded, in Poros, you have to suck your gut in to turn in the supermarket isles. And super crowded with yelling people.
Kalimera, KALLA A???? Why do they have to yell that hard ? In my face ? I can understand they are glad that Monday some restrictions are going to be lifted but the tourists are not going to come flocking on the beaches. From what I here from “ home “ nobody will come.
Sad.
I have a Seagull and a sail on my dinghy so I am quit slow.
Pretty sure I would be fined also when sailing the dinghy to Galata for shopping. (the Seagull is slower than sailing)
I wanted to take the car ferry from Poros to Galata and was told it was forbidden. No police on the Poros side but the ticket selling lady said that police was checking the Galata side.
Dahm stupid because in Galata the supermarket is very big and not crowded, in Poros, you have to suck your gut in to turn in the supermarket isles. And super crowded with yelling people.
Kalimera, KALLA A???? Why do they have to yell that hard ? In my face ? I can understand they are glad that Monday some restrictions are going to be lifted but the tourists are not going to come flocking on the beaches. From what I here from “ home “ nobody will come.
Sad.
Irish Rover
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Really hopping around you today, Tony. I seeNo they're not, but thanks. We live in Agios Nikolaos on the eastern end of the island and we've not felt any of them. These earthquakes are related to the plate boundary above which Crete sits so small earthquakes here are very common. You notice them most in a yacht on the hard, on a calm windless day your yacht will suddenly shake a little as in a strong wind gust and the halyards of other yachts will tingle at bit. That's an earthquake.
TBH we're extremely happy that we get lots and lots of small (less than magnitude 5) earthquakes on the plate boundary here. They frequently relieve the stresses that build up and mean that we're much less likely to get a big and destructive one. That said, they do happen. The most recent was a magnitude 7.7 just south of Amorgos in July 1956 that was felt strongly here. The biggest was a magnitude 8.3 just south east of Anafi in October 1856 that almost totally destroyed all buildings on the north-east coast of Crete.
3.2
2.2
5.2
4.0
4.4
5.3
Stay safe.
Tony Cross
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We didn't feel any of them! I've yet to meet anyone who did.
Tony Cross
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This is a classic 'out of context' story.
The Greek government has been using the reduced civil service workforce due to the lockdown to rapidly implement the online systems they have wanted to bring in for some time but which of course are opposed by the massively overmanned civil service. The elimination of fax machines is just a tiny part of removing the civil service's love affair with paper and stamps - which makes work for people of course - and bringing government services into the digital age. Already a great many services that used to require a visit to a government office can now be done at home online. This is actually some good COVID-19 news - unless you're a civil servant of course....
wwalsh
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UK Health and Social Care Secretary has banned the NHS from buying fax machines and has ordered a complete phase-out by April 2020. Published 9 December 2018. Health and Social Care Secretary bans fax machines in NHS
On monday 04/05 individual water sports are to be permitted in Greece. I didnt see a circular yet explaining which sports and also what about the beaches still being closed.
Also on monday it is expected for renewal of the (1) prohibition of navigation and (2) arrival of yachts from abroad.
On monday 04/05 individual water sports are to be permitted in Greece. I didnt see a circular yet explaining which sports and also what about the beaches still being closed.
Also on monday it is expected for renewal of the (1) prohibition of navigation and (2) arrival of yachts from abroad.
wwalsh
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https://www.boatfishing.gr/kleidose...loy-skafon-anapsychis-poies-oi-proypotheseis/
1. From Monday, May 4, 2020 at 06:00 and until Monday 18 May 2020 at 06:00, it is prohibited, within the Greek Territory, the departure and arrival of any type of amateur boat, private pleasure boats and commercial ships. tourist ships regardless of flag, for precautionary public health reasons, as reported in the National Commission for the Protection of Public Health's 2.5,2020 recommendation against the COVID-19 coronavirus.
2. During the period referred to in paragraph 1, such vessels and vessels may move in the following cases:
a) Emergency and force majeure related to mechanical failure, damage, not under command and other cases related to the safety of navigation and the protection of the marine environment,
b) Movement within same port and sea trials, in accordance with the current provisions and the orders of the relevant Port Authorities,
c) supply of ships and boats with fuel, water and supplies,
d) Movements in / from shipyards for repair and execution of other related works. After the completion of the above works, it is allowed to sail for individual voyage without passengers, either to the port of mooring of the ship, or to another port of choice of master.
e) service exclusively for the purposes related to the security of critical energy infrastructures of the country. This case concerns exclusively the commercial pleasure boats of law 4256/2014 (A '92),
f) to carry out amateur fishing, swimming or performing other recreational activity, provided that they do not approach an island of the same or another region of the port of departure of the ship / boat. With the care of the owner, the manager and the masters of the ship/boats, permitted the carriage of (50%) of the maximum number of passengers of the ships / boats as well as the observance of a minimum distance of two (2) meters between the passengers».
The above is not voted into law yet.
Edit : The fishing by boat seems unlikely to be permitted so soon.
1. From Monday, May 4, 2020 at 06:00 and until Monday 18 May 2020 at 06:00, it is prohibited, within the Greek Territory, the departure and arrival of any type of amateur boat, private pleasure boats and commercial ships. tourist ships regardless of flag, for precautionary public health reasons, as reported in the National Commission for the Protection of Public Health's 2.5,2020 recommendation against the COVID-19 coronavirus.
2. During the period referred to in paragraph 1, such vessels and vessels may move in the following cases:
a) Emergency and force majeure related to mechanical failure, damage, not under command and other cases related to the safety of navigation and the protection of the marine environment,
b) Movement within same port and sea trials, in accordance with the current provisions and the orders of the relevant Port Authorities,
c) supply of ships and boats with fuel, water and supplies,
d) Movements in / from shipyards for repair and execution of other related works. After the completion of the above works, it is allowed to sail for individual voyage without passengers, either to the port of mooring of the ship, or to another port of choice of master.
e) service exclusively for the purposes related to the security of critical energy infrastructures of the country. This case concerns exclusively the commercial pleasure boats of law 4256/2014 (A '92),
f) to carry out amateur fishing, swimming or performing other recreational activity, provided that they do not approach an island of the same or another region of the port of departure of the ship / boat. With the care of the owner, the manager and the masters of the ship/boats, permitted the carriage of (50%) of the maximum number of passengers of the ships / boats as well as the observance of a minimum distance of two (2) meters between the passengers».
The above is not voted into law yet.
Edit : The fishing by boat seems unlikely to be permitted so soon.
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lask
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I'm sorry it changed at the last minute.
Extension until 18/5/2020
https://www.boatfishing.gr/strofi-180-moiron-apo-tin-kyvernisi-schetika-me-ta-skafi-anapsychis/
Extension until 18/5/2020
https://www.boatfishing.gr/strofi-180-moiron-apo-tin-kyvernisi-schetika-me-ta-skafi-anapsychis/
wwalsh
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yes that is correct. how disappointing. no boat fishing. we will see at 18/05 if any change. The following is signed into law. Δ1α/ΓΠ.οικ. 27823 Επιβολή του μέτρου της απαγόρευσης του απόπλου και κατάπλου ιδιωτικών πλοίων αναψυχής και επαγγελματικών τουριστικών πλοίων στην ελληνική Επικράτεια, προς περιορισμό της διάδοσης του κορωνοϊού CΟVID-19, για το χρονικό διάστημα από 4.5.2020 και ώρα 06:00 έως και 18.5.2020 και ώρα 06:00.
1. From Monday, May 4, 2020 at 06:00 and until Monday 18 May 2020 at 06:00, it is prohibited, within the Greek Territory, the departure and arrival of any type of amateur fishing boat, private pleasure boats and commercial ships. tourist ships regardless of flag, for precautionary public health reasons, as reported in the National Commission for the Protection of Public Health's 2.5,2020 recommendation against the COVID-19 coronavirus.
2. During the period referred to in paragraph 1, such vessels and vessels may move in the following cases:
a) Emergency and force majeure related to mechanical failure, damage, not under command and other cases related to the safety of navigation and the protection of the marine environment,
b) Movement within same port and sea trials, in accordance with the current provisions and the orders of the relevant Port Authorities,
c) supply of ships and boats with fuel, water and supplies,
d) Movements in / from shipyards for repair and execution of other related works. After the completion of the above works, it is allowed to sail for individual voyage without passengers, either to the port of mooring of the ship, or to another port of choice of master.
e) service exclusively for the purposes related to the security of critical energy infrastructures of the country. This case concerns exclusively the commercial pleasure boats of law 4256/2014 (A '92),
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For any of the above special cases it is required for permission from the relevant port authority.
1. From Monday, May 4, 2020 at 06:00 and until Monday 18 May 2020 at 06:00, it is prohibited, within the Greek Territory, the departure and arrival of any type of amateur fishing boat, private pleasure boats and commercial ships. tourist ships regardless of flag, for precautionary public health reasons, as reported in the National Commission for the Protection of Public Health's 2.5,2020 recommendation against the COVID-19 coronavirus.
2. During the period referred to in paragraph 1, such vessels and vessels may move in the following cases:
a) Emergency and force majeure related to mechanical failure, damage, not under command and other cases related to the safety of navigation and the protection of the marine environment,
b) Movement within same port and sea trials, in accordance with the current provisions and the orders of the relevant Port Authorities,
c) supply of ships and boats with fuel, water and supplies,
d) Movements in / from shipyards for repair and execution of other related works. After the completion of the above works, it is allowed to sail for individual voyage without passengers, either to the port of mooring of the ship, or to another port of choice of master.
e) service exclusively for the purposes related to the security of critical energy infrastructures of the country. This case concerns exclusively the commercial pleasure boats of law 4256/2014 (A '92),
--
For any of the above special cases it is required for permission from the relevant port authority.
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Lazy Traveller
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f) to carry out amateur fishing, swimming or performing other recreational activity, provided that they do not approach an island of the same or another region of the port of departure of the ship / boat. With the care of the owner, the manager and the masters of the ship/boats, permitted the carriage of (50%) of the maximum number of passengers of the ships / boats as well as the observance of a minimum distance of two (2) meters between the passengers».
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Para. f - previously omitted - will be activated for vessels less than 7m in length.
https://www.naftemporiki.gr/story/1595742/oi-kya-gia-kolumpi-psarema-kai-thalassia-mesa-anapsuxis
f) to carry out amateur fishing, swimming or performing other recreational activity, provided that they do not approach an island of the same or another region of the port of departure of the ship / boat. With the care of the owner, the manager and the masters of the ship/boats, permitted the carriage of (50%) of the maximum number of passengers of the ships / boats as well as the observance of a minimum distance of two (2) meters between the passengers».
........
Para. f - previously omitted - will be activated for vessels less than 7m in length.
https://www.naftemporiki.gr/story/1595742/oi-kya-gia-kolumpi-psarema-kai-thalassia-mesa-anapsuxis
wwalsh
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thanks. they have signed it into law
ΦΕΚ B 1698/2020 04.05.2020
In par. 2 of the single article of no. Δ1α/ΓΠ.οικ.27823/3.5.2020 joint decision of the Ministers Citizen Protection, Health, Home Affairs and Shipping Tilias and Island Policy “Imposition of the measure of the prohibition of the departure and arrival of private pleasure boats and professional tourist ships- in the Greek Territory, to reduce the COVID-19 for the period from 4.5.2020 and time 06:00 to 18.5.2020 and time 06:00 "(B '1651), is added the following:
(F) permitted amateur fishing and swimming exclusively from private boats total length up to seven (7) meters under the following conditions :
i. of not approaching an island of the same or another Region of the port of departure and without staying out during the night,
ii. of the carriage not exceeding fifty percent (50%) of the maximum number of passengers allowed and
iii. of keeping a minimum distance of two (2) meters amongst those on board. "
ΦΕΚ B 1698/2020 04.05.2020
In par. 2 of the single article of no. Δ1α/ΓΠ.οικ.27823/3.5.2020 joint decision of the Ministers Citizen Protection, Health, Home Affairs and Shipping Tilias and Island Policy “Imposition of the measure of the prohibition of the departure and arrival of private pleasure boats and professional tourist ships- in the Greek Territory, to reduce the COVID-19 for the period from 4.5.2020 and time 06:00 to 18.5.2020 and time 06:00 "(B '1651), is added the following:
(F) permitted amateur fishing and swimming exclusively from private boats total length up to seven (7) meters under the following conditions :
i. of not approaching an island of the same or another Region of the port of departure and without staying out during the night,
ii. of the carriage not exceeding fifty percent (50%) of the maximum number of passengers allowed and
iii. of keeping a minimum distance of two (2) meters amongst those on board. "
wwalsh
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Directives have been issued regarding how the ferries to the greek islands will operate (presumably in July). On 18 May the travel within mainland will be allowed. To the islands will be later.
Conventional Ferry maximum 55% capacity, Fast Ferry 50% capacity
Temperature check on boarding
Health form to be completed before boarding
1.5m between persons while aboard
Mask required
One person per cabin unless it is family of four
Restriction on number of seats and spacing
Air seats to have unoccupied seats in all directions around each passenger
Various rules on cleaning and ventilation of areas
Το πιο διαφορετικό καλοκαίρι της ζωής μας: Πώς θα ταξιδέψουμε στα νησιά - Όλα τα μέτρα για τα πλοία
For the yachts they may allow them on 18 May to depart and return from the same port only and not to approach islands. This is not decided yet.
Conventional Ferry maximum 55% capacity, Fast Ferry 50% capacity
Temperature check on boarding
Health form to be completed before boarding
1.5m between persons while aboard
Mask required
One person per cabin unless it is family of four
Restriction on number of seats and spacing
Air seats to have unoccupied seats in all directions around each passenger
Various rules on cleaning and ventilation of areas
Το πιο διαφορετικό καλοκαίρι της ζωής μας: Πώς θα ταξιδέψουμε στα νησιά - Όλα τα μέτρα για τα πλοία
For the yachts they may allow them on 18 May to depart and return from the same port only and not to approach islands. This is not decided yet.
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