Broom to start Boatbuilding again.

[NEB]

In the earlier image look at the way the hull sweeps up at the stern. The shaft must run in the trough of the keel that can be seen in the hull,

I think NEB has it right. Look at the stern in the image below, The superstructure and fit out for a could of course be different for a boat that is for sale rather than hire.
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There's more info on the build process, design and specs here - Fleetline CJR F46 – Boating Holidays On The Norfolk Broads | Horning Pleasurecraft

The first boat was for a private customer, 2 for hire are based in Horning and the 3rd will be based at Brundall. The same chap owns both sites and is a true local Broadsman, not like the previous owners of Broom.

 

[Seastoke]

Would be interesting to do the maths - how many miles does one of these do in a day or indeed a week? Very little power needed to push at 5knots.
Of any boat applications the Broads must be the easiest.

It is tidal

 

[rafiki_]

There's more info on the build process, design and specs here - Fleetline CJR F46 – Boating Holidays On The Norfolk Broads | Horning Pleasurecraft

The first boat was for a private customer, 2 for hire are based in Horning and the 3rd will be based at Brundall. The same chap owns both sites and is a true local Broadsman, not like the previous owners of Broom.

Many thanks. This does not look like a classic Broom, but should be a comfortable river craft. Whatever it is, and looks like, it is great to have Broom building again.

 

[Egret]

Data sheet Indicates 80hp Nani / 10 KW Hybrid Engine - Interesting - Can anyone indicate the speed and endurance with the 10KW electric motor - much smaller than an electric car motor - looks positive for the future

 

[oldgit]

I know two couples who quite independently sold their Broom boats for the same reason . That was because getting on and off the thing became too much of a challenge. So don't leave it too long.
But yes Brooms have an old man image.

Same problem with the Fairline Turbo 36, you needed the agility of a mountain goat on the Fairline 43 AC to get on and off . They only sold a handfull.
Suspect the design Dept of all boat builders is populated with thin skinny hipsters who get up at 05.00 in order to pop to the pool for 50 lengths and then a quick workout at the gym before jogging into work.
Yes they do exist.
With the only folks now able to afford to buy and run large boats usually of a certain age , perhaps some space for Stanna Stairlifts should be on the options lists for Sunseeker, Princess and Fairline.
As for wide sensible flat sidedecks and windows that open ?

 

[stelican]

Same problem with the Fairline Turbo 36, you needed the agility of a mountain goat on the Fairline 43 AC to get on and off . They only sold a handfull.
Suspect the design Dept of all boat builders is populated with thin skinny hipsters who get up at 05.00 in order to pop to the pool for 50 lengths and then a quick workout at the gym before jogging into work.
Yes they do exist.
With the only folks now able to afford to buy and run large boats usually of a certain age , perhaps some space for Stanna Stairlifts should be on the options lists for Sunseeker, Princess and Fairline.
As for wide sensible flat sidedecks and windows that open ?

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43AC, It was more difficult to get off than get on unless you fell off!
Interestingly Sealine were ahead of the game with the S48 as there stairway to heaven (bathing steps/platform incorporated a Stannah stairlift mechanism.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

I welcome this as good news. I really hope they are successful with the new builds. Broom is a brand meaning solid and traditional. To drift too far from this would be challenging. Few folk would see Broom as competitors for Sunseeker, but they still have a strong following. I briefly considered a 42 CL, but came to the same conclusion when I bought a Mercedes. I’m not yet old enough……..

I always think as Broom as a lost chance to be more what it could have been for the real British cabin cruiser.
That's not to say they do not deserve much praise, as up till the nineties they evolved and showed the way for the British aft-cabin cruiser, and in those years were also copied by Fairline, Princess, and Sealine (36 Turbo/43 Phantom AC, 415/435 etc) who tried to take a bit of that market.
But in the noughties they lost a chance, and to be honest I think it was also given to them on a golden plate by the likes of the Pearl 55/60 and Ferretti 690 Altura were they should head design wise. What do you want more? They showed some signs of having innovative senses in between 2010 and 2014, but then the timing was all wrong.

Hope they come back, and I am sure Haines will not sit in its laurels, but in the end competition is always healthy especially to the buyer.

 

[volvopaul]

Same problem with the Fairline Turbo 36, you needed the agility of a mountain goat on the Fairline 43 AC to get on and off . They only sold a handfull.
Suspect the design Dept of all boat builders is populated with thin skinny hipsters who get up at 05.00 in order to pop to the pool for 50 lengths and then a quick workout at the gym before jogging into work.
Yes they do exist.
With the only folks now able to afford to buy and run large boats usually of a certain age , perhaps some space for Stanna Stairlifts should be on the options lists for Sunseeker, Princess and Fairline.
As for wide sensible flat sidedecks and windows that open ?

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That model AC was a terrible design for entry and exit especially when trying to carry tools and items to service one aboard , no wonder they only sold 15, 14 left in existence I believe .

 

[rafiki_]

That model AC was a terrible design for entry and exit especially when trying to carry tools and items to service one aboard , no wonder they only sold 15, 14 left in existence I believe .

One at NYA. Very leggie. Has been used for training.

 

[stelican]

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That model AC was a terrible design for entry and exit especially when trying to carry tools and items to service one aboard , no wonder they only sold 15, 14 left in existence I believe .

Very good access to services though. Big saloon cabins and heads so something had to give I suppose as you say side deck access.
We sold 6 or 7 new at Port Solent dealership.

 

[oldgit]

43AC, It was more difficult to get off than get on unless you fell off!
Interestingly Sealine were ahead of the game with the S48 as there stairway to heaven (bathing steps/platform incorporated a Stannah stairlift mechanism.

During our last boat search a AC 43 somehow appeared on the list, impressive asking price compared to flybridge boats of a similar vintage.
Obviously somebody thought it to be a very desirable boat.
On the up side, excellent Fairline build quality and vast amounts of inside space with a modern feel to the interior , unlike the "Victorian Funeral Parlour" decor of many Brooms.
OK all of them.
The down side, finally completing the vertiginous ascent , noticable of how little of the boat actually could be seen from the command bridge, certainly nothing aft, very little of the side decks with a only a very small part of the foredeck visable.
Raised concerns about docking and crew safety.
This may have been due to the somewhat complicated tent structure required to keep the elements off the skipper.
The real killer, realising that to get you from the bridge to the saloon involved 3 enormous steps with precious little to cling on to as you descended.
Some boats you do later wonder if you could put up with their little idiosyncrasies, some definately not.

 

[Alicatt]

I know two couples who quite independently sold their Broom boats for the same reason . That was because getting on and off the thing became too much of a challenge. So don't leave it too long.
But yes Brooms have an old man image.

It is a bit of a step up on the Ocean 37 but at 68 I don't feel I'm too old for the boat ... yet.
I did see one where the owner modified the hull where the side door is on his Continental so he could just walk on to the boat, he was a few years older than me though.
Love the arrangement of the salon and cabins on the Ocean 37, the location of the galley was the plus point that sold it to my wife. Though my friends and family here laughed at that, they all said that is me that does the cooking, so why should she need the galley there and how would I steer and cook at the same time.
Yeah the Brooms of a certain age are a bit woody inside, but it feels like a boat and it encourages you to stay aboard. We are very happy with our choice of money pit.

The real killer, realising that to get you from the bridge to the saloon involved 3 enormous steps with precious little to cling on to as you descended.

Only 3? The Ocean has 6 steep steps to get down into the salon

But at least there are hand holds

The little plaque at the top of the stairs is there because the boat was used as a rescue launch with the original owner

 

[volvopaul]

One at NYA. Very leggie. Has been used for training.

Possibly the ex Peters boat .

 

[oldgit]

It is a bit of a step up on the Ocean 37 but at 68 I don't feel I'm too old for the boat ... yet.
I did see one where the owner modified the hull where the side door is on his Continental so he could just walk on to the boat, he was a few years older than me though.
Love the arrangement of the salon and cabins on the Ocean 37, the location of the galley was the plus point that sold it to my wife. Though my friends and family here laughed at that, they all said that is me that does the cooking, so why should she need the galley there and how would I steer and cook at the same time.
Yeah the Brooms of a certain age are a bit woody inside, but it feels like a boat and it encourages you to stay aboard. We are very happy with our choice of money pit.


Only 3? The Ocean has 6 steep steps to get down into the salon
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But at least there are hand holds

The little plaque at the top of the stairs is there because the boat was used as a rescue launch with the original owner

Picture the same sort of drop but in only 3 increments, from memory there were no actual steps as in a actual ladder on the AC 43 more three boxes on top of each other.
OG is a tall leggy git , often described as a mouth onna pole, difficult for me. Lord only knows as to how Mrs OG would have coped.
Nice "Sailor" on the bulk head possibly complete with 24v convertor ? We used to repair those.

 

[Alicatt]

Picture the same sort of drop but in only 3 increments, from memory there were no actual steps as in a actual ladder on the AC 43 more three boxes on top of each other.
OG is a tall leggy git , often described as a mouth onna pole, difficult for me. Lord only knows as to how Mrs OG would have coped.
Nice "Sailor" on the bulk head possibly complete with 24v convertor ? We used to repair those.

Hmm now that is a question! It is listed twice on the fuse chart, one for 24V and one for 12V - ignore the note about the bilge pump, it was originally only a manual switched 24V, and still the original fitment from 1978, now it is an automatic with manual switch


Still sorting out through what is wired where as some things work and others not. There is a 30A 24V - 12V Victron converter behind the fuse panel. The 12V 4. Radio salon is for the CD player.
Once we are back from Scotland I will be working on Hunter sorting out the wires etc. and I need to run a new antenna cable for the Sailor VHF as I stole that antenna for the AIS
Manual bilge pump is below the fuse panel and that is the handle for it in the bottom of the cupboard