Boats will be flying off the shelf

[dgadee]

There are ways. One is to register as a visiting vessel in a Schengan country which allows those crew listed on the manifest, regardless of nationality, to remain aboard for an extended period (18 months?). They're allowed ashore but, technically, must sleep aboard each night. Costs around €500 in France for an agent to register the boat in this way.

Tell us more.

 

[AndyDavies]

Tell us more.

 

[dgadee]

Very interesting. Thanks.

 

[dgadee]

It works for those from down under., it seems The UK does not have such an agreement which can be used to bypass Schengen.

Have you different info?

 

[Thresher]

Staying in Schengen or anywhere can be simple enough providing you keep a low profile locally.

Its those that want the best of both worlds and kick an spit when life doesn't go as they want, make too much noise attract too much attention.

Are you sure? Every marina in France, Spain and Portugal acts as a border control post and I've been checked out by customs/police type boats half a dozen times in the last year.

 

[dunedin]

How much?

Can’t recall, as doesn’t currently affect me directly, not at present sailing in EU. Think the fines were not too steep financially, as presumably first offences.
But I wonder what the longer term implications are of a fine for overstaying?
- is this a criminal record, for breaking immigration rules - which can have all sorts of unexpected consequences for jobs etc?
- could this cause issues trying to renter the EU

 

[Greemble]

Can’t recall, as doesn’t currently affect me directly, not at present sailing in EU. Think the fines were not too steep financially, as presumably first offences.
But I wonder what the longer term implications are of a fine for overstaying?
- is this a criminal record, for breaking immigration rules - which can have all sorts of unexpected consequences for jobs etc?
- could this cause issues trying to renter the EU

I would suspect that the main problem with an over stay may well be possible difficulties with re-entry at a later date.

If staying too long a second time, then I'd expect re-entry may become very problematic.

 

[billskip]

I know someone who overstayed in Holland and was banned from re entry for 2 years.

 

[dgadee]

I know someone who overstayed in Holland and was banned from re entry for 2 years.

Only from the Netherlands?

 

[billskip]

Only from the Netherlands?

I don't know, it was a good few years ago maybe 7 or 8, she is Venezuelan and was in Holland for two years, we believe someone went to the authorities and bubbled her, she went back to Venezuela and was told she couldn't re enter for two years. Lawyers got on the case and something was sorted out,but that took years anyway.

 

[Greemble]

Only from the Netherlands?

I doubt the Netherlands could ban anyone from, say, France, Italy or Germany.

 

[dunedin]

I doubt the Netherlands could ban anyone from, say, France, Italy or Germany.

But presumably an infringement of Schengen stay length could result in a loss of rights to re-enter the Schengen area, wherever seeking to re-enter via - which would have this effect.

 

[Greemble]

But presumably an infringement of Schengen stay length could result in a loss of rights to re-enter the Schengen area, wherever seeking to re-enter via - which would have this effect.

Indeed, that might be the case. I don't know how that part of the agreement would work across the EU.

However, residency granted by one EU country doesn't seem to give unlimited time throughout the Schengen area - depending on the type of residency, I believe.