Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)

nah the cupboard is on the right of the pic by the stealth scatter cushion, so it wouldn't reach top and bottom.......

That's easy, panel has two thin skins but hollow core, pull it across, slide one sandwich plate within the core up and drop one down, all cut to follow contours, job done. Uses 75mm of cupboard space and no issues with panel storage....
 
That would work john. Stowed it would be to left of picture (to port); deployed it would slide rightwards. Catch is, and sorry to reveal info piecemeal, that corner of the shower room is made in nice bent plywood, about 4 inch radius. I'd have to have it made square to deploy your idea, plus fairline would go crazy about fitting slide tracks in view of me already being over my allowance on customisation hours. For reasons given above I need to stick with my simple heath robinson idea, even though i agree yours is better :)

So, these are mods for Match III?:D
 
As discussed on earlier thread, you are good at lateral (Hurricane being the grand master). That's a nice solution; if i had enough hours in my customisation budget with Fairline (I'm actually somewhat over...!) I'd ask them to do it. Will work on it anyhow, thanks! It is actually a non-problem becuase this is a once-a-year used item and fits in a sunbreall scratch-ptoection bag behind the cloth covered fore-aft wall panel at rhs of photo (panel velcos off)

That is a neat storage solution.
Wish I could fix real problems not non problems.........
 
OK white caulking.

I have 2 test panels here and I'm trying and failing to photograph what I mean.

For some bizarre reason, wood with white caulk looks lighter than wood with black caulk, when the wood is identical. I don't mean the overall look, I mean the wood itself. This is illogical and you would expect it to be the other way around.

This just reinforces what you said about having to keep white caulked teak cleaner than black caulked for it to look right.

Other observations:

I love the way you design boats, from an aesthetic and engineering viewpoint. Some of your aesthetic design choices I don't actually like, even though I love the boat and it's design, if that makes sense.

If I had the £000,000s to spend I would copy your engineering and have some colours etc different. I wouldn't criticise your aesthetic choices because they're personal. Well I would criticise the scatter cushions :)

So decks. For me teak and holly is for inside, teak and black caulk is for outside. But that's aesthetic.

However with the decks, the white is an inferior choice from an engineering viewpoint. It doesn't last as long, and it is harder to maintain. Even if you prefer the look of the white, you don't hate the black and it does its job as a deck.

The black must be the right choice therefore.

You asked for opinions. There's mine like it or not.
 
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OK last go, nice chrome post with contoured trim to match radius that locks at top and bottom and then receives and locks the panel pulled out of the cupboard in place - no more I promise......
The partition panel would have to slide out of the cupboard (shower room) to left of pic. So it would slide rightwards as you deploy it, in the above photo. It cannot go the other way around, becuase the bed on the right is on top of a water tank that continues forward under the wardrobe, and under a passerelle which also passes right thru the wordrobe. The panel cannot therefore slide back into the wardrobe area becuase of this tank and passerelle, unless it is a hollow panel with slide down+up fill in sections within the panel itself, which feels too much trouble to me. Sorry to be revealing the constraints a bit piecemeal! :-)
 
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OK white caulking.

I have 2 test panels here and I'm trying and failing to photograph what I mean.

For some bizarre reason, wood with white caulk looks lighter than wood with black caulk, when the wood is identical. I don't mean the overall look, I mean the wood itself. This is illogical and you would expect it to be the other way around.

This just reinforces what you said about having to keep white caulked teak cleaner than black caulked for it to look right.

Other observations:

I love the way you design boats, from an aesthetic and engineering viewpoint. Some of your aesthetic design choices I don't actually like, even though I love the boat and it's design, if that makes sense.

If I had the £000,000s to spend I would copy your engineering and have some colours etc different. I wouldn't criticise your aesthetic choices because they're personal. Well I would criticise the scatter cushions :)

So decks. For me teak and holly is for inside, teak and black caulk is for outside. But that's aesthetic.

However with the decks, the white is an inferior choice from an engineering viewpoint. It doesn't last as long, and it is harder to maintain. Even if you prefer the look of the white, you don't hate the black and it does its job as a deck.

The black must be the right choice therefore.

You asked for opinions. There's mine like it or not.

No worries about differing opinions! :)

I think you're right about the white caulk mantenance: it's not simply a matter of keeping the white clean; rather it's an incresed need to keep the teak straw brown and not let it go even the slightest bit silver, else it will look rubbish

These choices depend on how you weigh the various factors. I'm not alone in being tempted by white. The maintenance/cleaning is a non issue because I delegate that and dont mind the expense. The 8 year life compared with 12 is a non issue in my book becuase I'll either not own the boat or have the shipyard gouge it out and replace it. OTOH, I like the look very much and that's my personal upside - it would be no upside to you or anyone who didn't like the look :-)

Happy of course to diasgree on colours (and scatter cushhions!). The inside and outside look of Match2 will be very different from Match 1 though. There will be no browns and beiges in the fabrics and leathers, which is pretty unusual. On reflection I think Match1 was too conservative :-)
 
I had a detour via your other 164 page thread, which took the past three evenings to read. What an epic thread and I can't wait to see Match II come together.

Now back to page one of this thread :D

Anders
 
The inside and outside look of Match2 will be very different from Match 1 though. There will be no browns and beiges in the fabrics and leathers, which is pretty unusual. On reflection I think Match1 was too conservative :-)

Sounds like a dream to me! TBH, I'm getting a bit fed up with all the creams/beiges in our boat now.

Love the link to those Zinc fabrics BTW :)
 
Sounds like a dream to me! TBH, I'm getting a bit fed up with all the creams/beiges in our boat now.

Love the link to those Zinc fabrics BTW :)
Chris: , you, me and A&K need to hang out at the same nightclubs mate. We'll fix some dates for next year. :D :D
 
John, I don't know if you had a chance to look at the Pearl 75 at SIBS, but I really liked the colours and texture treatment inside.
Yep, I had a good look at it. It actually had several silver fabrics like those in the zinc range (by Romo) that i linked to above. I thought it had very nice interior except I thought there was too much grey painted wood and it would have looked better with more real woodgrain, either walnut or dark wenge, but that's just my taste. Could be a very nice boat if they can get the build standard a bit higher and I'm looking forward to reading the mag tests to find out how 50tonnes moves with 2x1250hp (pod drives)
 
Sitting in Malta aptmnt tonight (actually a bit chilly here this evening) and am delighted to find this thread has appeared; was wondering when it would :)

I'm no expert in cabin crew design so no comment other than it looks like a good compromise to me, but I'm in the 'no' camp for white caulking. Aside from it being inferior technically to black I think it will be a nightmare to keep looking good, even with the cleaning delegated. Every time it rains all dirt and dust will end up washed onto the caulking, will it not? As to looks of it that's personal.

Looking forward to this thread beating all forum records :)

Edit-also congrats on the start of construction; match2 will no doubt be superb.
 
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Me too.

Do you know who is doing the fit out? I think Portsmouth was mentioned.
No I dont know. They said hull = contract manufacturer in Taiwan ,fit out Portsmouth, but I dont know which firm or whether Pearl have got their own facility in Portsmouth. Others have said more is done in Taiwan. I don't know but you'd need clearer info before buying
 
No I dont know. They said hull = contract manufacturer in Taiwan ,fit out Portsmouth, but I dont know which firm or whether Pearl have got their own facility in Portsmouth. Others have said more is done in Taiwan. I don't know but you'd need clearer info before buying
If Pearl do have a facility in Portsmouth, it must be new because their manufacturing base is somewhere in the Midlands. Yes to spend the kind of money they're asking for their 75, you'd want to be very sure that the yards they're using for the hull and fit out have sufficient experience. I'm not sure but actually I'd heard they were moulding some of their hulls in Turkey
 
If Pearl do have a facility in Portsmouth, it must be new because their manufacturing base is somewhere in the Midlands. Yes to spend the kind of money they're asking for their 75, you'd want to be very sure that the yards they're using for the hull and fit out have sufficient experience. I'm not sure but actually I'd heard they were moulding some of their hulls in Turkey

Apologies for the Fred Drift. Pearl HQ is just south of Stratford on Avon. The facility there builds the 60 footers. the smaller boats are contracted to a Turkish yard. As I understand things, the new 75 hull and superstructure is moulded in Taiwan, and shipped across to Portsmouth for the fit-out and finishing. Might check for detail with Inwards, as they are the UK dealer.
 
John,
Great to see the thread started, I'm a bit late into it having been sailing in the Clyde - good fun - but cold!
With regards to caulking - White is the new black - especially if maintenance is not an issue.
With regards to the interior - Zinc is the new beige
Looking forward to many more updates.
Regards
Dave.
 
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