BartW
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exactly,
swmbo can not understand why I am so selective on this.
at the moment we are choosing lights for our garden / poolhouse,
tough discussions, you will believe me
Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)
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exactly,
swmbo can not understand why I am so selective on this.
at the moment we are choosing lights for our garden / poolhouse,
tough discussions, you will believe me
jfm
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EME
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Still alive and roof stayed on. Just!Cheers J, very bearable hiding out in the VIP of a 60m Feadship thanks.Not so sure EME's roof will take much more though!
Thanks for posting the arrangements, great reference for when the build starts taking shape.
Comments on CRI and EMC/EMI later when not on iPhone . Suffice to say at moment Lumishore lights are ONLY lights in world to have passed LLOYDS Type Approval for EMC. Tony is a magician in this area (Amongst others).
Yoeri
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Hi JFM,
Very impressive photos!
I look forward to the next series!
Yoeri
Very impressive photos!
I look forward to the next series!
Yoeri
jfm
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Thanks Yoeri. Your aluminium construction is highly impressive too. It's funny how an interest in boating and the sea also involves a strong interest in boatbuilding, in many people at least including lots on this forum. I guess you must see that a lot with VdV clients
Best wishes
Yoeri
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Thanks jfm!
Indeed, you hit the right note! We indeed see this a lot with our clients who want to build a boat theirself so to say.
After all we all share the same passion, and that's a beautiful thing!
All the best!
Yoeri
Indeed, you hit the right note! We indeed see this a lot with our clients who want to build a boat theirself so to say.
After all we all share the same passion, and that's a beautiful thing!
All the best!
Yoeri
Lozzer
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H John
Looking at your pics and drawing of crew space why have you l wonder why have you gone for one fore and aft cabin and one across the boat?
I can't read what is in the box by the stairway in crew cabin so this could be the reason I guess.
I would have thought that turning both the fore and aft cabin and bathroom through 90 you would get more space for both cabins, retaining a Jack and Jill wc....
I am sure you have gone through it at come up with the right answer.
I was looking at the pics of the Sqd 78 engine room, it is very impressive how they get all that kit in there. Hats off to the designers. How is it for servicing though? Is it tricky for engineers to get to the raw water impeller at the front of the engines?
Checker plate is a pain. Cold in winter and hot in summer. I have a number of pieces of carpet underlay and bubble wrap that I use for protection when working in engine room. Works a treat.
Looking at your pics and drawing of crew space why have you l wonder why have you gone for one fore and aft cabin and one across the boat?
I can't read what is in the box by the stairway in crew cabin so this could be the reason I guess.
I would have thought that turning both the fore and aft cabin and bathroom through 90 you would get more space for both cabins, retaining a Jack and Jill wc....
I am sure you have gone through it at come up with the right answer.
I was looking at the pics of the Sqd 78 engine room, it is very impressive how they get all that kit in there. Hats off to the designers. How is it for servicing though? Is it tricky for engineers to get to the raw water impeller at the front of the engines?
Checker plate is a pain. Cold in winter and hot in summer. I have a number of pieces of carpet underlay and bubble wrap that I use for protection when working in engine room. Works a treat.
MapisM
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Seconded 100%.
In my experience, what jfm said is actually even more true with non-GRP boats.
Wood probably leads the owners' geekyness ranking, but steel and alu are very close followers.
Otoh, jfm geekyness is second to none, even if he's a frozen snots fan...
...at least, he has been, so far!
jfm
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Hi Lozzer. Hard to explain - better to be on the boat! See pic below. The space you have to play with, freely customisable, is bordered in orange. You can do anything with this space - pool bar and round bed if you want, tender garage port side, lobster pot storage on one s78, scuba centre on another, pretty much anything you want. This "orange line" area is the totality of the space in my pics above, in reply to your post on crew space.
I have chosen a utility/laundry area to port, and a crew cabin to starboard. My crew cabin is shown by the yellow line. It has two beds, but spaced apart for a bit of privacy. The shower room has two doors - one to the util area and one to the cabin. On Match2 there will be a bolt in wood partition (blue line) to create two single cabins, which I'll hardly ever do, but it'll possible for occasional use. The aft part of the partitioned cabin would then have to be entered/exited by walking thru the shower room. The red line indicates a space where the athwartships bed can be transferred to (drop-in plywood base plus move the mattress over job) to create a double bed cabin. In double bed mode, one door to the shower room is blocked but there is still another door. Then fnally there is a 3rd crew bed to port, and I have a design and parts list (but never got round to installing it on Match1) for a curtain or partition along the purple line to create a cabin there
Each to their own but this suits my purposes. It can be crew or guest area. It can be double or twin, or double plus a bed for a child when I've used it for a family sharing their own shower room, for example, who want some privacy. With 2 crew it works as twins or a double or totally separate cabins, with private access to the shower room, so it works for all combos of couples/non-couples as crew.
I reckon all this works well based on match1 but of course each to their own. As you know Fairline do a version of s78 with 2 single bed crew cabins and jack n jill access to an athwartships shower room, which is fine, but I wanted the possibility of a double cabin OR a twin OR two separate cabins. On Match2 the whole thing is being done in walnut to the same standards as the front part of the boat. The custom extra window is marked in pink btw
FWIW here are the two standard crew cabin layouts usually offered on s78, and these are tweakable to have jack/jill doors to the shower room, etc etc. They work fine, except do not permit a double/twin convertible cabin with a door
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jfm
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Easy peasy Lozzer. Both sides of both engines are fully accessable; raw water impellers are dead easy, gensets fronts are dead easy (on the cummins onan as you know everything is serviceable from the front. On Match2 the "dashboards" on the sides of the engines will be moved up to the bulkheads. This will create much more room for your body when lying down to do, say, the raw water impellers
One of the e/room benefits of s78 c/f say princess 78 is that there are no wing fuel tanks. Makes for smaller cabins of course...!
I'll have a reverso oil change system so 4x sumps and 2x gearboxes are plumbed to a central oil change pump and manifold at aft of e/room, so you never have to carry cans of oil to the engines whether draining or refilling
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Elessar
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This "orange line" area is the totality of the space in my pics above, in reply to your post on crew space.
I have chosen a utility/laundry area to port, and a crew cabin to starboard. My crew cabin is shown by the yellow line. It has two beds, but spaced apart for a bit of privacy. The shower room has two doors - one to the util area and one to the cabin. On Match2 there will be a bolt in wood partition (blue line) to create two single cabins, which I'll hardly ever do, but it'll possible for occasional use.
Blue line - why not the have wardrobe door swing open and lock in the open position, ie dual purpose if it's only occasional? Saves having to unbolt and stow.
Elessar
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Match 1 was finished better than most production boats owners' bits!
jfm
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Nice idea. I would work nicely if it were all rectangles but alas the geometry doesn't allow it. Neither floor nor ceiling are flat, the latter partly becuase I have a custom passerelle going in the boat. your idea would work if the hinges were on the port side of the partition, not starboard, with the partition folding against the athwartships bit of port side wall, but it reduces the entry width a bit and that is too much price to pay for something used so rarely, I reckon. Hence i've opted for removeable. Easy to store, btw, i have just the place! Boats eh? Nuthin is ever simple. As you know! Thnaks for the idea
To explain better, partition has to be shaped like the red line below
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newWave
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Would a sliding door from behind the sink be an option ? Then it is self storing.
Alan_C
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Been away for a few weeks and return to the new JFM build. I learned so much from the Match1 build, so hopefully will understand much more of what is going on this time around.
Congratulations JFM on another exciting project
Congratulations JFM on another exciting project
Elessar
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Nice idea. I would work nicely if it were all rectangles but alas the geometry doesn't allow it. Neither floor nor ceiling are flat, the latter partly becuase I have a custom passerelle going in the boat. your idea would work if the hinges were on the port side of the partition, not starboard, with the partition folding against the athwartships bit of port side wall, but it reduces the entry width a bit and that is too much price to pay for something used so rarely, I reckon. Hence i've opted for removeable. Easy to store, btw, i have just the place! Boats eh? Nuthin is ever simple. As you know! Thnaks for the idea
To explain better, partition has to be shaped like the red line below
Aha - then you only need a bolt in header and footer, not a whole panel
I am good at "fixing" non-problems am I not??
John100156
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Or a sliding panel that you pull-out of the cupboard.....
Elessar
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nah the cupboard is on the right of the pic by the stealth scatter cushion, so it wouldn't reach top and bottom.......
jfm
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As discussed on earlier thread, you are good at lateral (Hurricane being the grand master). That's a nice solution; if i had enough hours in my customisation budget with Fairline (I'm actually somewhat over...!) I'd ask them to do it. Will work on it anyhow, thanks! It is actually a non-problem becuase this is a once-a-year used item and fits in a sunbreall scratch-ptoection bag behind the cloth covered fore-aft wall panel at rhs of photo (panel velcos off)Aha - then you only need a bolt in header and footer, not a whole panel
I am good at "fixing" non-problems am I not??
jfm
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That would work john. Stowed it would be to left of picture (to port); deployed it would slide rightwards. Catch is, and sorry to reveal info piecemeal, that corner of the shower room is made in nice bent plywood, about 4 inch radius. I'd have to have it made square to deploy your idea, plus fairline would go crazy about fitting slide tracks in view of me already being over my allowance on customisation hours. For reasons given above I need to stick with my simple heath robinson idea, even though i agree yours is better
