ylop
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Yes mine is the same - the assumption is I’ll break before the boat which is probably true!
Becoming demoralised...
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Tranona
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The discount shows when you first get the quote, not on renewal or maybe when you change type of. berth
paradave
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I’ve never seen a discount applied to insurance for having the boat in a marina over several insurers and many years. They have just provided a quote on the info given. Probably a sales trick.
Boathook
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I hadn't until late last year. Got a quote and the insurers used the wrong boatyard / marina. Got them to correct it and price went up by £80 as the place I'm presently at isn't classified as a marina for some reason. It's shelterd and soft mud for 16 hours a day with pontoons, mains water and electrics and full boatyard services.
paradave
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But did the original quote show a 10% discount for being in a marina (albeit incorrectly)?
DoubleEnder
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That makes me weep. A friend’s got a 60ft boat moored in a great spot in France, small town canal quay , power and water included and it’s about €1000 per annum.
Local hazards are fun. You have cats. We have pigeons getting on board, inside if possible and nesting. It’s vile
I feel we could profitably swap
Boaty_Pete
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Are we comparing apples and oranges?
I thought the OP wanted a MB, possibly with Flybridge circa 40ft.
Who on here, advocating for how wonderful a swinging mooring is, has that kind of boat on a swinging mooring?
When a MB is on a swinging mooring in a storm, my guess is it places 4x the loading on the single point of anchor, than a sail boat of comparable length.
Plus when not underway they rock and roll twice as much so even a small boat passing by is a PIA at times.
We've seen 3 storms strong enough to make me get out of bed and drive to the marina to double check the boat, lines, fenders and canopies. Other storms where I planned and executed a pop-by.
Rarely have I got there and said I had a wasted trip.
In 40yrs, I've never seen a 40+ft Flybridge white boat with a permanent Swinging mooring. I'm sure there are some, and they will be an outlier, but I think my guess is the majority of owners agree a marina berth is the way to go.
So the issue at hand is which marina berth.
I thought the OP wanted a MB, possibly with Flybridge circa 40ft.
Who on here, advocating for how wonderful a swinging mooring is, has that kind of boat on a swinging mooring?
When a MB is on a swinging mooring in a storm, my guess is it places 4x the loading on the single point of anchor, than a sail boat of comparable length.
Plus when not underway they rock and roll twice as much so even a small boat passing by is a PIA at times.
We've seen 3 storms strong enough to make me get out of bed and drive to the marina to double check the boat, lines, fenders and canopies. Other storms where I planned and executed a pop-by.
Rarely have I got there and said I had a wasted trip.
In 40yrs, I've never seen a 40+ft Flybridge white boat with a permanent Swinging mooring. I'm sure there are some, and they will be an outlier, but I think my guess is the majority of owners agree a marina berth is the way to go.
So the issue at hand is which marina berth.
lustyd
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To be fair, even in marinas they seem to suffer more due to the windage. Here in Plymouth I reported two large motor boats with damage yesterday, both due to the enormous windage and canvas panels. I'd certainly agree above a certain size moorings would be a big worry.
luptonj
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Marinas are few and far between around here. So most motor boats are on swinging moorings.
I'd have an hours drive to the nearest marina, much prefer the 200m walk to the pier where the tender is tied up and 2 minutes out to the boat.
In a storm, I'd be much happier with the boat on a sheltered swinging mooring than a marina, you know it's facing into the wind so often less pressure on the fittings etc and there's nothing to hit. If your mooring is well maintained, your real worry is ropes chafing through or fittings pulling out of the boat same as on a marina, so I just double up lines by default.
It mostly depends on what use you're making of it, if you want to use it as a holiday home, then yes a marina is the way to go. If you're heading somewhere most times you go onboard then choose cruising area and proximity to home as your first criteria, if that leads to a swinging mooring go for it.
I'd much rather be motoring around in the tender than sitting in a traffic jam, in fact most times I bring the kids friends out, it's their favourite part of the journey.
Given the option of having a boat you want on a swinging mooring or not having it, I think it's an easy choice and personally, if I'm going to spend another 10k a year on the boat, it'll be on diesel rather than the convenience of passing the bags into the boat from a pontoon rather than the tender.
Boaty_Pete
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I'd love to see a picture of these motor boats on swinging moorings. I am genuinely intrigued.
For me I'd struggle to accept any boat on a swinging mooring as my use profile (and desire) just don't fit, but I appreciate why others love it.
For me I'd struggle to accept any boat on a swinging mooring as my use profile (and desire) just don't fit, but I appreciate why others love it.
luptonj
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My boat on her mooring.
Something much bigger on her mooring a couple of miles away
Sticky Fingers
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Last pic is an anchorage.
luptonj
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Sorry, you're right, that pic is the boat anchored near mine, it's usually moored a few miles away for the summer.
Sticky Fingers
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There are definitely places where motorboats are moored on swinging moorings, although they are very much in the minority; most swinging mooring users are small to medium size sailing boats. I've definitely seen motorboats moored on the Beaulieu River for example, I don't know whether these are all year round, but it's pretty sheltered up there so they likelihood is that they will stay in most if not all of the year.
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luptonj
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I have 2 friends here with large boats, one motor and one sail, that they keep on a mooring for the summer when they're actually boating, but move to a marina for the winter and use them as floating apartments. Best of both worlds in my book.
Sticky Fingers
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Apologies for typos (now fixed) in my post #114 
way too early in the morning
way too early in the morning
lustyd
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I think I preferred it before. The idea of mowing boats in the Beaulieu River was rather appealing as a career choice.
Little Ricky
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Absolutely, tender is tied to the boat plus you'd have to be a lunatic to have a million quid boat sloshing around on a swing mooring just to save a couple of quid marina fees.
Assassin
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I would suggest starting with what you want and work out all the pros and cons, then find out what you can afford and then work out the compromises between them and eventually you will work out the most convenient abd nost affordable.
You can drive to a possible destination and find out how long it takes and if it is a frought or easy journey and what kit you need to carry and is it viable to load and unload your car and work the compromises.
You can drive to a possible destination and find out how long it takes and if it is a frought or easy journey and what kit you need to carry and is it viable to load and unload your car and work the compromises.
luptonj
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I'm pretty sure that's the same princess 56 that spent the last 2 summers on a swinging mooring a couple of miles from here.
Just confused my photos as it had anchored in the middle of a mooring field, the large yacht behind it is moored.
My point is that it's not always about money, when the choice is a swinging mooring where you want your boat to be or a marina berth somewhere you don't want to be...
Choice is easy for me.
