Beautiful yachts but..........

[Fr J Hackett]

Looking at a few yachts I came across these Spirit yachts, absolutely breathtaking and without doubt sail like the proverbial witch but could you comfortably live on one for an extended passage? The Spirit 111 seems totally impractical for anything but moderate conditions as far as venturing below or using the galley, the 65 DH seems a little better. I can only really imagine spending most of the time on deck or in the pilot house. I will leave aside the question of propulsion.

 

[dunedin]

Beautiful boats, but rich peoples toys for occasional use and/or charter. Most owners probably also have
(a) waterside apartment near to the marina
(b) large motor yacht accompanying the sailing yacht
(c) private plane / helicopter to get to and from the yacht
or all of the above.

 

[Praxinoscope]

I think I could just about get used to the luxury,

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I think I could just about get used to the luxury,

Not sure either would fit in Aberaeron harbour ?

 

[Praxinoscope]

Not sure either would fit in Aberaeron harbour ?

If I could afford one of these I could afford to modify Aberaeron harbour to fit.

 

[mjcoon]

If I could afford one of these I could afford to modify Aberaeron harbour to fit.

Ah, the Procrustes solution! wikipedia.org/Procrustes

 

[Wansworth]

Not much room for owner self maintenance frankly I find too much perfection boring.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Not much room for owner self maintenance frankly I find too much perfection boring.

If you had the skills and inclination there is no reason why you couldn't maintain either but why would you.

 

[Wansworth]

If you had the skills and inclination there is no reason why you couldn't maintain either but why would you.

Well yesII could afford one I could afford a little man to keep up with maintenance probably like the owners do

 

[RivalRedwing]

a different world, could do with some fiddles here and there if it is going to be heeled when sailed

 

[Wansworth]

a different world, could do with some fiddles here and there if it is going to be heeled when sailed

Probably a hamper from Harold’s and a hip flask with tipple all that needed for a day out

 

[Wansworth]

Two memories of sailing in yachts kept up by paid crew.Trip round the Solent and the paid hand was in charge of getting old beers and meat pies oht of the bilge cooler box and Dragon racing at Coweswere a wicker hambre was put aboard with perfect cucumber sandwiches

 

[Chiara’s slave]

My main gripe with them is how astonishingly rude to us they were, at a British classics regatta. I was crewing on an 8 metre, wearing crew uniform. They are pretty offhand at boat shows too. I do understand they must get a lot of rubbernecking, but other quality brands are kind of nicer. Al from Multihull Promotions had an £800k yacht at Southampton, and isn’t the least bit snotty.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

My main gripe with them is how astonishingly rude to us they were, at a British classics regatta. I was crewing on an 8 metre, wearing crew uniform. They are pretty offhand at boat shows too. I do understand they must get a lot of rubbernecking, but other quality brands are kind of nicer. Al from Multihull Promotions had an £800k yacht at Southampton, and isn’t the least bit snotty.

£800K vs £2.2 million for the 65DH and probably north of £6 million for the 111 Spirit don't need to attract potential buyers they are queuing up for build slots.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

£800K vs £2.2 million for the 65DH and probably north of £6 million for the 111 Spirit don't need to attract potential buyers they are queuing up for build slots.

They do make smaller ones. And I were in the market for a 65ft boat, it would most certainly not be that one any more. As it happens, as for many people I am sure, our boat size is limited by the mooring we can find, even before we get to paying for it. Curiously we’ve just had much the same from Mercedes, in spite of owning one, and not a cheap old banger. Our new car is therefore not a Mercedes. If we really wanted a Spirit, we’d find a way. They’ve made it a ‘no way’ by arrogance, snobbery and condescension.

 

[michael_w]

I think Spirit yachts look awful. Not enough spring in the sheer, snubbed bow and a grossly exaggerated stern overhang. Plus they probably have the most unergonomic cockpits I've ever seen. Rich man's day sailer, who doesn't know any better.

The designers who can do it properly.
William Fife

Nathaniel Herreshoff

German Frers

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Ha. It was a Fife 8M I was sailing on.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I think Spirit yachts look awful. Not enough spring in the sheer, snubbed bow and a grossly exaggerated stern overhang. Plus they probably have the most unergonomic cockpits I've ever seen. Rich man's day sailer, who doesn't know any better.

The designers who can do it properly.
William Fife

Nathaniel Herreshoff

German Frers

To some extent I think you are correct in both of the featured yachts ( and some others) the owners intervention has certainly led to form dominating function and jeopardising use at sea but it seems these owners are more interested in day sailing and regatta sailing rather than cruising with extended passage making. However externally the latter offerings including these two are imo stunning and timeless in a modern way.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

To some extent I think you are correct in both of the featured yachts ( and some others) the owners intervention has certainly led to form dominating function and jeopardising use at sea but it seems these owners are more interested in day sailing and regatta sailing rather than cruising with extended passage making. However externally the latter offerings including these two are imo stunning and timeless in a modern way.

They are indeed day sailers, like the 8M class. They do have accommodation, but it's for the hired hands, not the owner.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

They are indeed day sailers, like the 8M class. They do have accommodation, but it's for the hired hands, not the owner.

If you look at the videos and other information you would know that the S111 has been specifically built with no crew quarters it has been designed to sail for a 30 odd year owner to sail with friends and race with a day crew. The 65DH is similarly designed as a family orientated cruiser but just what type of cruising is unclear.