Beautiful yachts but..........

[Fr J Hackett]

I would have thought that if one wanted such a yacht one would sit with the yacht designer & discuss the overall dimensions & the approximate lines.
he would then come back with some ideas , from which the client would then start to make some more positive decisions.
After that an interior designer would be called in & the real work would come in to play. The interior team might be part of the hull designer or more likely a separate design team that has possibly worked together in the past.
In any event the yacht would evolve with the owner presenting his list as early on as possible. I bet that in most cases a lot of that list goes out the window when a decent design team can show him what they can do. That assumes he is not a repeat customer. Of course he may be someone who has had a history of large yachts and has begun to know exactly what he wants from his new pride & joy.
It is interesting to note that the 65 shown in the video was first comissioned in 2021.It is now up for sale. Why? No one has commented on that point yet. It may be that the owner has met an unfortunate set of circumstances, or it may be that he has just decided that he does not actually like it, now he has seen & sailed it- Has anyone considered that last point; because I might be lambasted for this, but I do not like it that much either.

In the comments of the Berthon sales video someone asked the question which I am sure that everyone that views the yacht is also wondering about. The answer was "plans change" or in other words we can't tell you. I suspect that it's a combination of several factors that make the yacht fine for a G&T in harbour but lacking in practicality below decks at sea and dare I say it the propulsion and generating systems.
I got the impression that it had not even been handed over or at least used as the Berthon blurb suggested that it's first voyage was with them to be sold.

 

[DownWest]

What do they make them out of now? Used to be wood, but I haven't paid much attention to them for a while.

 

[Tranona]

Still epoxy/wood with help from carbon fibre. Teak now replaced with teak substitutes for decks as explained in the video on the 65.

 

[Wansworth]

Probablytraditional boatbuilding would appeal more to me,larch onOak or pine on Oak more in keeping with the planet saving times and easier to dispose of,and of course a proper wheelhouse to keep out the drafts?

 

[pyrojames]

They do make smaller ones. And I were in the market for a 65ft boat, it would most certainly not be that one any more. As it happens, as for many people I am sure, our boat size is limited by the mooring we can find, even before we get to paying for it. Curiously we’ve just had much the same from Mercedes, in spite of owning one, and not a cheap old banger. Our new car is therefore not a Mercedes. If we really wanted a Spirit, we’d find a way. They’ve made it a ‘no way’ by arrogance, snobbery and condescension.

Oddly, that is my experience of Mercedes too. I prefer to maintain old classics so that they live on, rather than cutting up trees and coating them with plastic to try and make new ones.

 

[crewman]

There was a Spirit 36 at Port Edgar a few years ago. I did not know that varnished wood could be so glossy! Never saw it out sailing. Beautiful tgo look at but glad I did not have to do the upkeep.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

There was a Spirit 36 at Port Edgar a few years ago. I did not know that varnished wood could be so glossy! Never saw it out sailing. Beautiful tgo look at but glad I did not have to do the upkeep.

I rather like a bit of quality time in the company of a varnish brush.

 

[DownWest]

I rather like a bit of quality time in the company of a varnish brush.

More like a life sentence with a Spirit...

 

[Chiara’s slave]

More like a life sentence with a Spirit...

Try a 1928 8 metre then.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I doubt either of the owners of the two vessels in question or any similar sized ones will deign to lift a varnish brush, and in anywise spirit doesn't use varnish they apply some concoction that is reputed to have a 10 year life.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

10 years, yeah, right. We all use 2 pack finishes these days, for several reasons not least long life. 10 years is pushing it!

 

[westernman]

10 years, yeah, right. We all use 2 pack finishes these days, for several reasons not least long life. 10 years is pushing it!

Maximum 4 years if exposed directly to the sun in the med.
It then flakes off and cannot be touched up.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

It’s not a lot longer here.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Maximum 4 years if exposed directly to the sun in the med.
It then flakes off and cannot be touched up.

That's why they have a little man to meet them and put on the brightwork covers. ?
Apparently it's Awlwood 1 pack varnish whatever that might be although I don't expect the owners to be concerned about it, I wouldn't be.?

 

[DownWest]

That's why they have a little man to meet them and put on the brightwork covers. ?
Apparently it's Awlwood 1 pack varnish whatever that might be although I don't expect the owners to be concerned about it, I wouldn't be.?

Is that related to Awlgrip? Maybe I should ask my man wot does?

 

[Jodel]

There is a 63DH which seems to have a more sensible fitout. This is the sales brochure from a year ago after the original owner had sailed the ARC and back. https://spirityachts.com/wp-content/uploads/SY-Spirit-63DH-brokerage-Sales-PDF-Final.pdf
There were a series of videos of the Transat on Spirit's website but I can't now find them. It looks a lovely boat but i'd prefer it with a few inches less freeboard.

 

[geem]

That's why they have a little man to meet them and put on the brightwork covers. ?
Apparently it's Awlwood 1 pack varnish whatever that might be although I don't expect the owners to be concerned about it, I wouldn't be.?

The posh yachts based in the Caribbean have new varnish every 6 months!

 

[Wansworth]

This varnish business is much like the lawns of French chateau s basically you could afford it so you had it whilst the plebsresoted to paint or oiling?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Is that related to Awlgrip? Maybe I should ask my man wot does?

Yes it's made by Awlgrip apparently

 

[Fr J Hackett]

There is a 63DH which seems to have a more sensible fitout. This is the sales brochure from a year ago after the original owner had sailed the ARC and back. https://spirityachts.com/wp-content/uploads/SY-Spirit-63DH-brokerage-Sales-PDF-Final.pdf
There were a series of videos of the Transat on Spirit's website but I can't now find them. It looks a lovely boat but i'd prefer it with a few inches less freeboard.

Yes it's a far better use of below decks space and better specified for realistic offshore cruising almost certainly by an owner that knew what he wanted to do and what was required of the boat. The examples in my OP have clearly been specified for limited offshore work ( the 65DH for example with a 40 litre combined fridge freezer) and are expected to spend the majority of their time day sailing with frequent marina visits.