BBC Report on Abandoned Boats

[Pye_End]

Isn't it actually the large number of blades of wind turbines which are the real problem - not a few unsightly boats lying about backwaters?

Having a problem with disposal of one thing does not negate the need for green disposal of another.

 

[fisherman]

Isn't it actually the large number of blades of wind turbines which are the real problem - not a few unsightly boats lying about backwaters?

Well they aren't going to be abandoned on a foreshore, and won't be in convoluted structures with ply, soaked in oil and fuel, hopefully. How often are they scrapped, do we think?

 

[dgadee]

Having a problem with disposal of one thing does not negate the need for green disposal of another.

Don't shoot the messenger!

Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills

 

[mrming]

Could marina / mooring owners hold a deposit (in ESCROW or similar) equal to the current cost of disposing of the boat? This would have to be adjusted each year in line with inflation. When the boat owner removes their boat, they get it back, plus any interest that has accrued. If they abandon the boat, the Marina or mooring holder can access the amount they need to get rid of the boat.

 

[penberth3]

Well they aren't going to be abandoned on a foreshore, and won't be in convoluted structures with ply, soaked in oil and fuel, hopefully. How often are they scrapped, do we think?

Don't know how often, but there's a lot of them already. Cat D8 for scale:

 

[DavidonMersea]

A boat on a mooring not far from ours hadn't been used (or moved even) for over 4 years - sails still bent on,

There is sailing club in Lagos Portugal that uses old sails as curtains in the clubhouse

 

[Caraway]

Don't know how often, but there's a lot of them already. Cat D8 for scale:

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It said 8000 per year in the US according to dgadee's link.

 

[fisherman]

It said 8000 per year in the US according to dgadee's link.

Not so eco friendly then

 

[lustyd]

Not so eco friendly then

They're made of CFRP so think of it as carbon capture. The greens have thought of everything

 

[Capt Popeye]

My understanding was that TBT was one of those "persistent" chemicals that likes to hang around. While TBT was banned from use in pleasure craft, it was not banned from use in ships until 2008.

When I bought an Ex Supply Vessel in the 60s there was a supply of Antifouling in tins in the lockers ; Marked up as for Commercial Shipping only so guess whilst we were worrying about using our small stash of left overs Yacht Antifouling others in the Shipping world were still buying BIG tins of REAL COMMERCIAL Antifoulings

As stated above guess some Naughty Anti Foulings were filtering into the Boat, Yachting and Commercial for some time ?

 

[Pye_End]

Don't shoot the messenger!

Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills

I'm not sure how else to put it. The thread is about the disposal of boats. It is illogical to suggest that there isn't an issue with boat fly tipping because there is a problem with the disposal of wind vanes.

It is a bit like me asking for advice on what varnish to use, and you telling me that the real issue is actually the state of my sails.

 

[Stemar]

Yes, but it does put the problem of old boats into perspective, which some vocal "greenies" may not be too keen on happening. As I said above, I'd never argue that old GRP boats aren't a problem, just that we have more serious and urgent ones to deal with. Which is in no way suggesting the issue should be ignored.

 

[penfold]

There are means of recycling FRP but they have a cost.

 

[Mister E]

Could some be used as animal shelters?

 

[dgadee]

I'm not sure how else to put it. The thread is about the disposal of boats. It is illogical to suggest that there isn't an issue with boat fly tipping because there is a problem with the disposal of wind vanes.

It is a bit like me asking for advice on what varnish to use, and you telling me that the real issue is actually the state of my sails.

Don't follow your analogy.

However both boat and blades need a similar solution. Blades are a bigger problem so may lead to an earlier resolution. Maybe not. Maybe grp boats will just be buried, too. I have no idea, not being a futurologist.

 

[Gary Fox]

Could some be used as animal shelters?

Absolutely!

 

[fisherman]

I think in terms of scale boats are probably a relatively small problem compared with the sheer volume of everyday 'consumable' plastic.
Doesn't really make it better, I know.
What a shit species we are.

 

[Keith 66]

Boats account for approx 11% of total GRP & FRP industry so a relatively low percentage.
Recycling dead boats article link here,Recycling Dead Boats - Professional BoatBuilder Magazine, Written from the American viewpoint but equally pertinent to us too.

 

[dgadee]

Boats account for approx 11% of total GRP & FRP industry so a relatively low percentage.
Recycling dead boats article link here,Recycling Dead Boats - Professional BoatBuilder Magazine, Written from the American viewpoint but equally pertinent to us too.

Interesting article but he's complaining that no-one buys new when they can buy used. Surely that's recycling? The problem seems to be with smallish boats from the 1960s and 1970s - made 50 to 60 years ago where the hull is ok but the remainder not. Will 1980s boats be used for longer given that they are generally larger? How long do grp car/bus/turbine blades last? I can see there is a problem, but I don't see that posing it as a simple problem is helpful.

 

[fisherman]

Chap asked me about selling a Dell Quay fisherboat. needing a lot of work. My mate deals in boats and they have to be shiny, plush and like new, so I told the chap to give up, can't even give it away. Absolutely sound hull good quality, but for me the first thing I see is a lot of grinding work, and a lot of dust which I can't tolerate for a moment.
I would have no problem with fitting out a bare hull, done it many times.