Avoiding Fish Farms in the med

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From time to time in the med, we see a large construction in the water that looks like a newly-constructed marina. These are fish farms. You'll find these all over the place.

Fish farms are almost always located near centres of population, because otherwise they'd need lots of transport and the fish wouldn't be fresh.

But the good news is that the fish farms are always located out of the way of the main traffic. Otherwise people would smash through them in boats every morning. They're also quite close inshore, only 200metres out of so, again partly to keep them out of the way of marine traffic, and partly to cut down on the amount of time it takes to get there for the fisherman who look after the farm. And as the fish farm is near the population centres and close inshore, there's often a good deal of shorebased light which falls on it from the shore, illuminating them.

Of course, sometimes people do smash through them in boats. They say that the farm was unlit and uncharted. But then, there are small boats that are uncharted, and floating debris floating all around - even whole trees - but even these are smaller than a fish farm. And since the delicate fish farms are often put out only from spring when the storms are over, the exact location of the farm would change. Smashing into a fish farm is far less excusable than smashing into the extra mooring buoys outside Yarmouth harbour, for example, and nort are the extra ones individually marked on the charts.

The best advice if out at sea is to have glass windows, pointing forwards. But on their own, these won't do. You'll have to stay awake, your eyes open, and look out of them, adjusting the direction of the boat appropriately, and AWAY from the fish farm.

If you do smash into a fish farm, be very grateful because you were about to hit the land not far behind it.

I hope that clears this up.
 

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Useful advice TCM. But I think you've missed the point wrt Spirit of Cardiff's race. It is just that a race where the crew get little sleep and travel throughout the night at brake neck speed weather permitting. If you read the SOC account, they hit the fish farm in the dark! Sometimes even with night vision it's easy to miss a small structure especially if there is land behind it so not visible on a horizon.

I think you should be a bit more generous towards the SOC team.

I do hope you don't have such an incident with your much better equipped Leopard as there really would be no excuses, and I am sure yout wouldn't be doing 30+ knots into and out of each harbouras I guess your not going to be racing it.
 

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Re: Windup, wakeup

hmm. I should show you where fish farms are. 30 knots or whatever, they don't plonk these things where even the below-average boatie with new boat and no radar and no anything will hittem, so they aren't on anything like a straight line from out at sea to the port. SOC has piles of this stuff and the time to kep sharpest lookout is nearing land, surely? They are very big things. Anchored to the sea bed, they aren't in deep water either. SOC can't possibly succeed if they have to make up a few minutes by belting in and out of harbours at breakneck speed in the dark.

But I would like to hear the full story, of course, and wish them all the best.
 

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So what you're saying then Wakup is that if "your racing" it's OK to run something or someone down? I thought that "keep a good lookout" was the duty of every sailor?

Good luck to the racing teams but...

Through difficulties to the bar (IMHO / FWIW / NWGOI)
 

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TCMs Accident Proof!

Isn't hindsight from a far a wondeful thing !!!!!

Were you there when it happened?

A few facts, they didn't come across a fish farm looking like a marina! They hit a floating (Submerged) boom that carries the nets. I have seen these fish farms in Malta and you really don't see them until you're on top of them in day light even at low speed and they are also frequently moved by the fisherman. So I am not at all surprised that SOC hit one of these at night. Togther with the fact that they had just cruised from Gib non-stop in less than ideal conditions. I guess even TCMs attention span would be non the less perfect after such a trip.

For those that are interested in the facts...and not retoric.

http://www.spirit-of-cardiff.com/journal/000013.html

I guess SOC could travel at 10 knots every time they approached land, wouldn't get them any records though would it.
 

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Re: TCMs Accident Proof!

Dont worry 'wakeup' Matt has this thing about Alan Priddy and loves to comment on his mistakes or things that he does which arent deemed the norm. He is just doing it to see if someone bites at his windups.

I know Alan well and he is a great bloke who knows alot about offshore powerboting. Many people every year hit submerged items and the most common of which are ROCKS which appear on the chart and do not move. If he hit a rock then I would say he was a bit of a lemon but to hit a half submerged boom in the dead of night on a rough passage, well that could happen to anyone.

As you say hindsight is great and maybe if Matt had that he wouldnt of set his bike alight outside the shops ;-) <G>
 

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Re: tis/tisn\'t

It seems a weak argument to say "well you couldn't do any better!" , isn't it? And irrelevant. How far adrift was this fish farm? Lots of boats managed to get in and out of malta without going thru it. In fact, every single one until SOC. Or perhaps the mobile reception is really crap in Malta, yes that must be it...
 

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Re: hindsight enclosed -no windows, see

The latest news show a pic of SOC at Suez, with one of it's windows blocked out, and the rooflights fully open. Not easy to spot much with only one window, I'll bet. Could they have foreseen this? Did anyone? Yes!

"a spare saw.... To hack lumps out of the pilothouse when they find how blimmin hot it is at the equator?"

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Re: hindsight enclosed -no windows, see

The window is blocked out so whilst the boat is in the marina the NAV equipment and dash dont get melted by the sun.

You dont want to hack holes in the wheel hous cos it'll only cause the whole thing to collapse when you are out in the atlantic and you take a big green that holds the boat underwater for 15 seconds. Not that you'll know much about those sort of conditions being a Med man yourself.

They have hatches in the roof to let in air when it gets too hot.
 

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Hi Domnic of Soltron

I am quite aware that they can't saw holes in the pilothouse. My earlier quote was a joke. But seriosuly, I did mention the issue of heat build-up at the equator. A rear-raked windscreen design, rather than copying a cabin cruiser, would have avoided the problem.

From here, a better solution than blocking out the window is to fit a big shade sheet, made of light metal or grp on the roof, extending forwards of the windscreen. This will stop the sun actually hitting the screen in the first place, and then hoping to dissipate the heat. Use spacers , so that there's a gap between roof and sunshield, and it will also act as a headshield/heatsink to keep the roof cooler.

I wonder at what point "plucky English types" become "dimwit losers"? Of course, we all recognise that they can't experience what it's like without doing it. So they'll need to think hard and foresee problems before they happen. But they don't seem to have done much of this.

So for example, the chandlery-type hatches on the roof seem standard riverboat issue. I had deduced that they are there for ventilation, duh. I did not think that they were there to make the cabing nice and bright, or so that they can see the sky. You say that the boat may be held underwater for 15 seconds. Do they have storm protectors for those hatches? It doesn't look like it. Have they been tested against being caved in? Carefully planned, an additional eyebrow shaed could have been made so that it could be repositioned to also act as an exetrnal storm protection for the roof windows for the Atlantic .

Anyway, I hope that your sponsorship is going nicely.
 

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Matthew of Leopard Sportsboats

Sponsorship is going well altho I could do with more wide angled shots on the boat to pick up my stickers.

The boat has been tested in the Atlantic where it has taken a whole set of big greens. Most boats when they take a wave of that size for that long will capsize underwater and come keel up but Spirit has been designed to stay upright.

Those hatches have taken a battering already and so have the windscreens which have been replaced. That shield over the windscreen is only there whilst they are moored, it doesnt need it whilst they are running. Dont forget the more they add to the boat the greater the weight the more fuel consumed the more to lose if things get rough. etc etc so loads of gadgets are more of a hinderence than a help.

Spirit has as much on board as it needs without adding to the weight problem. Remember it is only a 33ft RIB that has to carry enuf fuel to get it to each stop also the crossover from St. Johns to the Azores is one hell of a long stint but with 10% more economy from Soltron it has made thing easier for them.

You can plan for most things but not everything always goes to plan especially when on a tight budget and a tight schedule. If anyone would like to help out this way please go to www.spirit-of-cardiff.com and participate in the buy a mile scheme.

Dom
 

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Re: Er right

um I thought it was just a mate with the unmentionable diesel additives? Only slight problem with the sponsorship is if they run out of fuel i suppose...

Unfortunately I make not a cent from the success of leopard boats, in fact seeing as how there's no discount, quite the reverse.
 

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Re: Er right

I also have not made a penny from mentioning Soltron on this forum but have plugged it as much as you have plugged Leopard Sports boats.

Ok so I use it over here in the CI and sell it on to my customers (from fuel prblem related business) but only ones that want to buy it. I have never forced anyone to try it in fact I have given it away recently to one member of the forum who visited Guernsey at the weekend. I also have traded a few non measure bottles for measuring ones with another member of the forum and one other member was offered it free and bought it from a chandler. So I have lost money from plugging Soltron.

I have lost money when I sposored Alan for the RTW trip as I dont think I will get enuf customers coming to me for it to make up £1300 worth of Soltron but its for a worthy cause.

WOW what a fred drift from Fish farms in the Med to going on about Soltron ;-)
 
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