Aversion to heeling.

[Lizzie_B]

depends on under water profiles and ballast ratios etc. Modern, high volume, shallow saucer type hulls eg Beneteau cruisers under 40feet tend do best upright, and reefed early. If over pressed will make large amount of leeway and broach easily. On the other hand older 'wine glass' profiled, heavy displacement boats usually have optimum angle of heel where they settle into the 'groove'. To push them beyond that simply strains the rig uneccessarily without increasing speed and if pushed to extremes wil eventually slow you down. My Eliz 31 is fastest at about 15 degrees. Rival 31/2 designer stated that 20 degrees was optimum heel after which she would go no faster. I'm fortunate as Mrs B. was brought up on the Falmouth St Mawes ferry so she still thinks fifteen degrees and a force seven are flat and calm. She even goes below and cooks (blowed if I would)! I guess the answer for those who sail more traditional style boats is to Marry Cornish women. Ruth and I are thinking of starting a dating agency!!!!

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[TheBoatman]

My SWMBO is unfortunately a "non sailor" see doesn't mind anything with an engine thats actually going but as soon as we turn the iron sail off, pull on bits of string and haul the rags up the stick she doesn't like it to be too "tippy"

At this point she disappears down below and doesn't surface again until all the "tippy" has gone from the boat<s> Dispite all my efforts she cannot believe that it wont actually fall over.

Ahhh well we all have crosses to bear!

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[Omatako]

When you get to "sailing faster" you'll be going downwind (everybody knows cats don't go to weather) and then the mono isn't heeling anyway.
FWIW, I have same reefing alarm, load audible screech goes up as the leeward rail goes down. It's part of family sailing.

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[qsiv]

Perfect time to reef is when sopmeone says, or thinks, "I wonder when (if) we should reef". It's almost always better done before it is too accutely needed.

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[extravert]

Cats going to weather? Mine doesn\'t.

here. Mug of tea stays where left as well.



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[Twister_Ken]

Me and geometry...

...don't go too well together, so 13.4 kts to the apparent while initially sounding very impressive makes me wonder what VMG to windward actually was, and what the true wind angle was, because13.4 knots of 'speed' wind over the bow will pull the apparent wind well forward, and make it feel like you are sailing much closer to the true wind than you actually are. I think.

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[extravert]

Re: Me and geometry...

You are right that increased boat speed when beating hurts the best angle of sailing to true wind, but that is the price that has to be paid by us unfortunate triers. I can't sail any closer to apparent wind than 30 degrees like most boats (Americas Cup boats excepted), because of the design of the boat, so with that limitation, increased boat speed gives diminishing returns on VMG.

I've done the geometry, but I have had to make one assumption. I have had to guess what the windspeed would have been, and I have assumed 28 knots apparent from experience. I start reefing at 30 knots apparent. My calculations give a true wind angle of 50 degrees, and a VMG of 8.5 knots, and a nervous expression on the skipper's face. Not much heeling though, and the mug of tea still sitting happily, which is what this thread is meant to be about.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Me and geometry...

Well, a VMG of 8.something knots is certainly not to be sniffed at.

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[brianhumber]

Yes my wife does not like heeling either.
Ronhilda goes best with about 10 degrees, this means the flat bottom is not slamming down on the channel chop. When overpressed ie dipping the side rail in we get get very little extra speed for a lot more sail area.

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[Cornishman]

Re: Dating Agency

Cor! Can I join, please? Mind you, after looking at your profile I think you might have difficulty finding enough maids willing to leave Cornwall for your parts of the world!

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