Am I becoming a curmudgeon?

[wombat88]

Put some big white numbers on the front of the boat, hang car tyres all the way round and develop a serious smell of rotten fish. They will all keep away.

 

[Sea-Fever]

I haven't noticed the number of people ignorant of colregs (or not keeping a lookout) increasing. They're out there, but they always have been.

There's a simple way to keep your blood pressure under control, though, which is to avoid seeing each encounter as an adversarial situation where having to avoid a vessel that should have kept clear counts as losing. You're correctly following Rule 17; you can allow yourself to feel satisfied about that. If you're close-hauled on starboard but have to avoid someone on port, by the time it's obvious they're not going to keep clear, your duck under their stern will be small enough not to have lost any significant amount of ground anyway.

It seems unlikely that even a bikini-clad teenager would have driven right into you. And the Small Boat Channel is inevitably going to be busy at the moment, which is why entering under sail is, I believe, prohibited under normal circumstances.

Pete

I motor-sailed in the other day, following wind....and wondered if someone would have a pop for using the small boat channel with the rags hoisted. I was going to call up QHM for permission seeing my engine was sou ding decidedly dodgy and looking like it was going to overheat.

As it happened nobody said anything and I slid right in. Warship on the way out as well!!

 

[Sea-Fever]

..and to answer the OP's question.. ..Somebody has to assume the role of grumpy git, otherwise standards will nosedive. Just think of the good you are doing by giving someone a snarl as they pass....they'll be wondering all day what is is they did wrong.

 

[Laminar Flow]

I blame this all, firstly, on GPS and, secondly, on chart plotters. These have combined to lower the bar of confidence that once kept most of the worst offenders off the water.

It was only later in life, and after I had done most of my major navigation to date, that I came to use a plotter and the ease of it was something of a shock to me.
I suppose the problem is that, unlike the terrestrial version, the marine one doesn't let you know when you are making an illegal turn.

 

[Deleted member 478]

Please .... can we lose the ‘right of way’ phrase?

your local GOM.

GOM? Let me guess:
- Gospel Of Morris?
- Got Overweight Missus?
- Gunners Or Manchester?
- Grumpy Old Man?

 

[newtothis]

..and to answer the OP's question.. ..Somebody has to assume the role of grumpy git, otherwise standards will nosedive. Just think of the good you are doing by giving someone a snarl as they pass....they'll be wondering all day what is is they did wrong.

I think the OP has been outed on a beach on the Isle of Wight....
New dinosaur related to T. rex discovered

(The latin name seems somehow appropriate )

 

[Tomahawk]

Yesterday I had right of way.........................at the roundabout at Lidl but a French car decided they had right of way and pulled out in front of me - b*****s.
I know that in France, cars joining from the right used to have right of way and in some cases still do have right of way but in Portugal they do not have right of way.

From occasional driving over there, my experience of the Portuguese highway code is..

He that hesitates gives way.

 

[Stemar]

Ah well, even mobos aren't all bad. One of my more memorable moments was approaching the passage through the submarine barrier, a mobo came the other way. The lovely young crew gave a big friendly wave, clearly oblivious to the fact that she'd forgotten her top. I could even forgive the wake ?

 

[greeny]

Ah well, even mobos aren't all bad. One of my more memorable moments was approaching the passage through the submarine barrier, a mobo came the other way. The lovely young crew gave a big friendly wave, clearly oblivious to the fact that she'd forgotten her top. I could even forgive the wake ?

Wot - in Gosport?

 

[Stemar]

Not Gosport. I'm sure there are some lovelies in Gosport, but they seem to hide when I'm there (can't think why ) The Mobo was coming from Langstone/Chichester direction.

 

[Achosenman]

The Mobo was coming from Langstone/Chichester direction.

Decidedly more upmarket....?

 

[LittleSister]

I motor-sailed in the other day, following wind....and wondered if someone would have a pop for using the small boat channel with the rags hoisted. I was going to call up QHM for permission seeing my engine was sou ding decidedly dodgy and looking like it was going to overheat.

As it happened nobody said anything and I slid right in. Warship on the way out as well!!

Obviously they knew you were compliant because they could see your motoring cone.

 

[bdh198]

I motor-sailed in the other day, following wind....and wondered if someone would have a pop for using the small boat channel with the rags hoisted. I was going to call up QHM for permission seeing my engine was sou ding decidedly dodgy and looking like it was going to overheat.

As it happened nobody said anything and I slid right in. Warship on the way out as well!!

There’s no requirement in the rules to drop your sails when in the small boat channel. The only requirement is to ensure your engine, if fitted, is being used (“use” I’m presuming would be interpreted as ‘your primary means of propulsion’). So there is no problem with motor-sailing into the harbour.


The Dockyard Port of Portsmouth Order 2005

Schedule 2
Navigation in the Harbour Entrance and Small Boat Channel

10.—(1)...

(2) Subject to paragraph (1), small boats must:

(a) use the designated Small Boat Channel when entering or leaving the Harbour;

(b) if fitted with an engine, use it when in the Small Boat Channel and when crossing between Ballast and Gunwharf Quays or the Town Camber;

(c) not loiter in the Small Boat Channel;

(d) obey any directions in respect of traffic separation which the Queen’s Harbour Master may from time to time issue by local or general notice to mariners in respect of the entrance to the Swashway and the Inner Swashway; and

(e) not, without the permission of the Queen’s Harbour Master, cross the harbour between Ballast and Gunwharf Quays or the Town Camber.

 

[Sea-Fever]

Obviously they knew you were compliant because they could see your motoring cone.

They may indeed have seen it by utilising some sort of X-ray vision into the depths of the lazarette.

 

[Concerto]

Not Gosport. I'm sure there are some lovelies in Gosport, but they seem to hide when I'm there (can't think why ) The Mobo was coming from Langstone/Chichester direction.

Solent or bust?

 

[Deleted member 478]

Not Gosport. I'm sure there are some lovelies in Gosport, but they seem to hide when I'm there

Ah, Gosvegas; where the lovelies push prams around just so that their knuckles don't drag along the pavement. @capnsensible warned us about this ages ago.

 

[Stemar]

Solent or bust?

Definitely bust ?

Ah, Gosvegas; where the lovelies push prams around just so that their knuckles don't drag along the pavement. @capnsensible warned us about this ages ago.

Unkind. True, but unkind.

 

[chrishscorp]

There’s no requirement in the rules to drop your sails when in the small boat channel. The only requirement is to ensure your engine, if fitted, is being used (“use” I’m presuming would be interpreted as ‘your primary means of propulsion’). So there is no problem with motor-sailing into the harbour.


The Dockyard Port of Portsmouth Order 2005

Schedule 2
Navigation in the Harbour Entrance and Small Boat Channel

10.—(1)...

(2) Subject to paragraph (1), small boats must:

(a) use the designated Small Boat Channel when entering or leaving the Harbour;

(b) if fitted with an engine, use it when in the Small Boat Channel and when crossing between Ballast and Gunwharf Quays or the Town Camber;

(c) not loiter in the Small Boat Channel;

(d) obey any directions in respect of traffic separation which the Queen’s Harbour Master may from time to time issue by local or general notice to mariners in respect of the entrance to the Swashway and the Inner Swashway; and

(e) not, without the permission of the Queen’s Harbour Master, cross the harbour between Ballast and Gunwharf Quays or the Town Camber.

Beat me too it, We sailed into Portsmouth harbour on Sunday, Engine running wouldnt dream of not using the wind if its of use. I do furl some of the Genoa so I have better visibility having previously had some twonk decide the small boat channel was the place to suddenly stop and take his sails down

 

[JumbleDuck]

What is not inevitable is the increasing number of people that seem to be completely oblivious of the rules of the road.

My entire Solent sailing experience is a weekend with a friend doing Hamble - Cowes - Folly Inn - Beaulieu - Hamble. I was astonished at (a) how many other boats were around and (b) how few of them seemed to know or pay the slightest attention to IRPCS.

That was in 1997.

 

[Frogmogman]

Now I hate to be a grumpy old git but all this happened on the same trip. Someone please tell me its not just me???????

Turning into an old git in one's old age is a fairly common condition amongst males of the species. To have enough self-awareness to realise one is becoming afflicted is half the battle; one can make an effort not to be THAT person.