All new Dufou 41

[Wansworth]

We were onboard a 40 year old American 47ft cruising boat last night for drinks. Never seen so much teak in a boat. I thought we had a lot. It felt very traditional and very nice and comfortable. Large saloon, huge galley, hand holds everywhere. Very well designed for liveaboard and life at sea. Absolutely nothing like the Dufour 41?.
A heavy boat but just done an Atlantic crossing from Tenerife to Antigua in under 18 days. Light doesn't always equal fast and certainly not comfortable

Yes you have to compare like for like a 1970 family cruiser has little to do with a nice Rhodes designed ketch which what the Dufour should be judged.

 

[Blueboatman]

What? Where? Have we read the same thread?

All I see is some gentle joshing, and a pretty good natured exchange of various views and opinions, including admissions from both camps that the opposite camp's favoured boat types and boating styles have some merits.

I have just skimmed through the whole thread again to see if I'd missed something, and can't see anyone else using the sort of inflammatory language that you have, nor ascribing ill will to others.



At least we can agree on that.

Well said ( or written)
A sense of proportion
No one size fits all!
And peoples requirements and budgets do change over the years

 

[geem]

Yes you have to compare like for like a 1970 family cruiser has little to do with a nice Rhodes designed ketch which what the Dufour should be judged.

I just showed my wife the Dufour sales blurb. Her comments was 'is that a caravan or a boat?'

 

[Wansworth]

I just showed my wife the Dufour sales blurb. Her comments was 'is that a caravan or a boat?'

QED

 

[Fr J Hackett]

IKEA on the water

 

[Skylark]

IKEA on the water

Surprised to see you in the closeted chip on my shoulder with envy club ?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Surprised to see you in the closeted chip on my shoulder with envy club ?

I don't envy anyone that would own that monstrosity my comments relate purely to the styling, I have no idea of it's sailing capabilities and wouldn't give them a second glance. When buying a yacht there are several factors that determine what you look at depending of course on your needs, out and out offshore racing, cruising, club racing/ cruising etc. Budget usually comes in at the top then other things and as I am definitely a cruising sailor and more of one that enjoyed offshore passages as opposed to costal marina hopping ( and I did my fair share of that). A layout that you can live with and a yacht that visually appeals is my top of the list plus of course does it meet my antediluvian idea of what makes for a comfortable offshore cruiser and the Dufour most definitely does not.

 

[lustyd]

It’s very telling that you think the choices are offshore or marina hopping. Goes some way to explaining your attitude towards modern boats

 

[Skylark]

You should try one @Fr J Hackett you may be surprised and have to amend your antediluvian views.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

You should try one @Fr J Hackett you may be surprised and have to amend your antediluvian views.

I very much doubt it as I couldn't live with the interior regardless of anything else. This is my type of boat.

2006 Pacific Seacraft 40 Cruiser for sale - YachtWorld

 

[oldgit]

Bit of a pansy and own a modern comfortable boat ? Want to discover what boating should be like .
Why not buy one of these and become a real sailor ?

You can endure proper sailing without suffering the constant urge to varnish or heat tins of Fray Bentos over a spirit stove.
You will be crossing oceans within weeks...............

 

[lustyd]

2006 Pacific Seacraft 40 Cruiser for sale - YachtWorld

I like the way they minimised the light levels inside. None of that horrible view of the outside world in the anchorage to distract from the never ending varnishing. A perfect boat for the reclusive gentleman.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I like the way they minimised the light levels inside. None of that horrible view of the outside world in the anchorage to distract from the never ending varnishing. A perfect boat for the reclusive gentleman.

Have you ever sailed one?

 

[lustyd]

Have you ever sailed one?

Why on earth would I want to? Looks very depressing.
There’s no outdoor space at all, it has the feel of a prison ship to me.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Why on earth would I want to? Looks very depressing.
There’s no outdoor space at all, it has the feel of a prison ship to me.

Thought not ?

 

[lustyd]

Thought not ?

An ironic response given your own refusal to give the modern boat a chance.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

An ironic response given your own refusal to give the modern boat a chance.

It would be a very expensive chance plus a nauseating one as I do not like the aesthetics.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

An ironic response given your own refusal to give the modern boat a chance.

One could say the same of you. ?

 

[Skylark]

I very much doubt it as I couldn't live with the interior regardless of anything else. This is my type of boat.

2006 Pacific Seacraft 40 Cruiser for sale - YachtWorld

It certainly confirms your antediluvian views. Not to my tastes but I can appreciate its qualities.

My first sail boat experiences were school boat Victoria 34 and a Fulmar. It was an absolute revelation when I was first asked aboard the much disparaged by some, AWB. Significant progress in terms of agility, manoeuvrability, performance and comfort for my needs as a recreational sailor. Also, there’s nothing to beat being the first owner of a new vessel in my opinion.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

It certainly confirms your antediluvian views. Not to my tastes but I can appreciate its qualities.

My first sail boat experiences were school boat Victoria 34 and a Fulmar. It was an absolute revelation when I was first asked aboard the much disparaged by some, AWB. Significant progress in terms of agility, manoeuvrability, performance and comfort for my needs as a recreational sailor. Also, there’s nothing to beat being the first owner of a new vessel in my opinion.

My first sailboat experiences discounting an old clinker built dinghy was a old converted ships lifeboat, after that I have sailed and or raced a variety including Fulmars, Sadlers, Vancouvers, Sigmas including a stripped out 41, Valients, Crealocks some bastard even posted a picture of me helming a Bavaria 30 on here Sadly I have never been the first owner of a yacht, it took me 64 years to become the first owner of a car ( other than company cars)