A video on our Princess F55….

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Just seen the video Henry, excellent selection rationale and what a really beautiful boat.

Hope you have many great trips out and about and she proves to be wholly reliable, look forward to future updates....
 

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Impressive! How's the force distributed on the hull?
Henry, nice job. Very nice video and very nice boat. Enjoyed watching it :)

Colin these things need to be bolted to glassed-in hull mounts not dissimilar to engine mounts.

If you think of 18000nm, and imagine the gyro to be a box about 1m wide, then you would mount the gyro on say two stringers glassed into the hull, 1m apart, and each of them would "feel" a push down or a pull up of about 1.8tonnes (if you'll forgive me the minor sin of using weight units rather than force). I imagine Henry's engines and gboxes weigh about 1.8 tonnes each, sitting on two stringers each, which have to take a vibrating load plus the propeller thrust. So you can see that in ballpark terms gyros need mounts that are similar to engine mounts.

Incidentally the 18000nm anti-roll torque is rarely felt. Gyros can provide a lot of ant-roll torque for a very short time period, or less torque for a longer period. It's one or the other, and you can't have both. The hydraulics that control the gyro precession make sure there is a good compromise so that, mostly, less than the 18000nm maximum anti-roll torque is applied for a usefully long period, which means that usually there is less force on the hull mounts. Of course the mounts still have to be sized for the maximum anti-roll torque.
 

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So would Princess have mounting points fitted as standard during production, or could they be retro fitted later?
Henry's gyro was installed in build, so the mounts were installed then.

Otherwise, I have never seen a boat with pre-installed mounts but no actual gyro. For retrofit gyros, the mounts are also retrofitted. Epoxy/GRP onto the existing inside surface of the hull, perhaps picking up existing stringers if you get lucky
 

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Really enjoyable video Henry, Mango is a lovely piece of kit and i have no doubt that you will have hours of enjoyment on board. Thanks for the tour and as you say, the space everywhere is really impressive/usable. Can't believe there isn't a way of venting a washer dryer to stop the moisture spreading about, an essential piece of kit if the skipper has a penchant for wandering about in his undercrackers 😊
 

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Hi Henry - do you notice any differences in the operation of the gyro in wash versus swell versus wind-driven waves conditions or does it just take everything in its stride in the same way?
It pretty much deals with whatever you throw at it. Sometimes it takes a roll and a half to establish its self (a bit like the shock absorber on a car).

But overall I’m a huge convert.

From a charter perspective we pretty much just drop the hook anywhere now whereas before I would be really conscious of not wanting to upset delicate customers.
 

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Really enjoyable video Henry, Mango is a lovely piece of kit and i have no doubt that you will have hours of enjoyment on board. Thanks for the tour and as you say, the space everywhere is really impressive/usable. Can't believe there isn't a way of venting a washer dryer to stop the moisture spreading about, an essential piece of kit if the skipper has a penchant for wandering about in his undercrackers 😊
😂

I have my morning coffee and a slice of toast underpants, my mid day reading the papers underpants, my pre-dinner underpants.

We’ve just never felt the need for a washer on board and it goes against the grain of trying to preserve resources when travelling in remote areas.

Purely a personal opinion helped by the fact that Haslar has amazing commercial washers and dryers that swallow up loads of towels.
 
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