A statement on behalf of the defence

Mirelle

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Re: Hard?

I'm pretty sure about that!

And to think that this whole thread started because Ken (who I know is not a Troll; I have seen and spoken to him, drinking Guiness at the London Boat Show!) said something nice about
a modern French boat!
 
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Marinas .... and locks !!

This also reminds me of Sunsail lining up for the locks to go play out at sea .... filling all lock slots and jo-blogs losing his chance to exit said marina ........ great - boat never gets over-worked, stays in clean marina water, sails stay in bags / rolled away neatly etc. etc.

Multi-plex cinemas etc. are there to keep all those boat-opwners happy after lining up behind [ah em!] and being turned away from locks back to berth !!!!!!
 

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Hi Ken

Just got back from the plastic fantastic (with teak lid). Still loving it, shame the patio furniture will have to go into storage for winter. The sun continues to shine here in France.

May you continue to love your Twister as much as I do my Bav.
 

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Re: This is going to sound like bullshit, but I\'m sincere. Honest

Having sailed Sadlers and Westerlys in the 80s.then they the yogurhpots,and then ended up with a contessa 26 and then a Bowman 26 and now a Nova 26 (Golden NovaA.K.AThe weekend cottage.)and the sailing boat a Rival 31.I think ive got the best of both worlds.Years ago ,when i could'nt afford a boat,Big Mortgage,Young family,i would look at a Stella and think.If only.
Now a fulmar from the early eighties is Prime.and i look at the charter boats in Greece .Great for a couple of weeks and go backwards as easy as going ahead.
but when the med turns nasty,which it does ,what to do?.Ken is right as are the others that try to accomodate reluctant families.Each to his own.as the Greeks say to me "Why do you do so much work on the boat"There is no answer that they would understand.But a few posters on this board know exactly what I mean
 

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Re: This is going to sound like bullshit, but I\'m sincere. Honest

Wish I knew what it was, Halcyon 27 was not even on my list of possibles, but went looking around a local layup yard, and there was this yacht with a phone number on its self steering wind vane. Whent on board and fell in love, got at least 3years work restoring it, no heads, ( bucket and chuck it previous owner) no sink not even water tank, just 20 plastic containers and a bowl. Gather from the previous owners that they would heave to in a force 6/7 mid-Atlantic while they sat down to a quiet dinner and a rest. Maybe I'm not going there, but it gives you faith in local weather and sea conditions.

Perhaps it's related to why some people see in art as the old masters, while others see art as the Modern Tate, and one half never under stand the other.


Brian
 

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Re: This is going to sound like bullshit, but I\'m sincere. Honest

Having had experience of all these types is valuable.

the problem we have when looking at old yachts is that we find them uninspiring. what a vendor often describes as good or excellent condition, to us is like an old kitchen in a house. sound solid but out of date and unexciting. which is why we end up with the more modern boats. the other main factor is price/accomm/value etc.

i don't doubt that if we were to spend some time with ken on his boat we could well be converted.

(currently boatless, about to buy, I think!)
 
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Re: Bravo, Ken

Not much of an endorsement if you've driven a C5
 

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Er, Fatso, my dear...

You do understand that this is a sailing forum, don't you? Quite why you, oldgit and Jeremy are wittering on about the Citroen C5 certainly beats me. If you've driven one, well, you have the advantage of me there. But the real question is - have you sailed a Twister? (Hah! I thought not!) ;-)

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Re: Euroyots

With the extraordinary volume the euro factories have achieved in the last 15 years, what will the owners of all these yachts choose next time and the time after that? Surely they're being exposed to debates such as these; my pet hate being the lack of righting moment, weak rudder stocks and only just strong enough scantlings.

The industrial culture of the Euroyot factories bring great cost benefits; It would be nice to think that like the Honda car (from the 70s until now) the quality and technology of mass produced yachts will evolve. There is less obsolescence in yachts so the Euroyot factories will surely look to their existing customers for much of their future business.

I realise that its still a matter of horses for courses but with a large number of baby boomers about to retire or semi retire I reckon many are going to want to do some more miles.

For the incorrigible aesthetes just be prepared for some plastic fantastics to become `classics'

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